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I thought that we were going to make vccachat.org our home web site, and we do already have a webmaster and also , if you haven't noticed, and you haven't noticed because you have not surfed over that way, we have a webmaster at vcca.org Maybe our leader, adminiatrator, webmaster, junior reporter, banjo picker, photo-gallery guy, etc., etc. will find a way to give the region a forum or something like that for our regional members to use. What else do we need right off?
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Maybe if you all came over for a while and helped me finish my Landau (ala Pimp My Ride), then I'd have time to help you out. But gosh, almighty, do you understand how much ADDITIONAL work I'm going to get now? This new Board (and related Officers) are probably going to want to make up for lost time now, and I can see myself being v-e-r-y busy for the next 9 or 10 mnnths.
But... after you get together for a while and shake the berries in the trees, let me know what you're thinking about... for example, do you want your own stand-alone chat site? Or ?? Knowing what you're thinking of will help steer me towards a possible solution.
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"If you want to get something done right and quickly, assign the job to a very busy person!" How about a spot over there in the rear of the outside stall where the fridge with the keg is kept? That would do for me, how about you, Mr. Mutt, sir? 
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Okay Mackus Wackus and Gator......the first thing we have to do is WAIT until we get notification in writing from the VCCA that we have an official Chat Group. That is step one. Next, we will need guidelines from the VCCA as to what they expect and what we can and cannot do. Once we get to that point, then we can proceed....but this could take a little time since we are all treading on new ground here and we will have to work out all of the logistics as we go.  :grin: :o
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Yeah, Mister Mutt, sir. Also, they should send you a VCCA Policy Book with all the by-laws and regional information, the forms you will need to conduct the meetings, etc, since you are the duly elected Director for 2007.
P.S. AcCORDing to Mr. Joe Smith we do have a name: Chat Group
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If CHAT GROUP is our new official name, the all us charter members must be........ GROUPIESSorry, I couldn't help it!!!!  :grin: JYD, Mr. Prez......I agree....we need to wait for "official", in writing approval from the big guys before proceeding. Let's not jump off the deep end.....we need to get this right. It took too long to get here so let's not screw it up. We all wanted JYD to lead, so let's listen to him (at least a little bit).  My suggestion for something for Bill Barker to think about.....a "private" place to meet. :)
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I've been unable, until today to contribute to chat for awhile --a combination of computer replacement problems. I agree with the others, let's go slow and make sure we get it right. 37Blue
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Howdy All... Yep, I've "been" thinking about it, but I come to the same conclusion. We can't offer up a "service" here (eg. a special password protected forum) unless we offer one to every single region. While that might not be a bad idea, we haven't ever discussed it before. I guess that I'd like to bounce it off the NEWLY RE-FORMED Technology Committee if that's what you think that you want to do. I want to make sure that if I add that many new forums that I can spread the workload out somehow. Remember I don't get anything ($) for this job, and frankly, I may not have sufficient time to respond in a timely manner. And I don't want to leave you in the lurch. So the idea of getting additional "technical" help, and "administrative" help might be the key here. The good news is that our new Chat software, and the new hosting provider, all can accomodate the additional load. With one minor exception. If our total monthly bandwidth goes beyond a certain point, then our monthly costs will change -- dramatically. They have a limit to how much of the network resource that we can consume. But we've still got headroom. So along the lines of my earlier posting -- define your requirements a little bit more and then let me look at some possible options. (Keeping in mind, that one option is for the "region" to get it's own Chat site.) NEW TOPIC I almost hate to bring this up, but from my knothole (and not as a fly, ha ha), I think that the name of the region was somewhat detrimental to the approval process. It may be a matter of semantics, but I think that if the region name was something different, then it would have been less controversial. An example of a name that I think would have been better received is "Chev Technical Region", or "Technical Chat Region", or "Chev Engineering Region" or "Automotive Intellect Region".... or..... See where I'm coming from? Any other "virtual" regions that may get formed in the future will probably be dedicated to a specific topic. It might be called the "Four Cylinder Region", or the "Pre-War Region", or the "Wood Body Region", or??? Just an observation... the term "Chat Region" doesn't convey an immediate sense of purpose. It might not be too late to rectify this if you-all are so inclined. Gotta go back to work... that's my epiphany for the day.  Good luck... and yes, it was a wonderful weekend.
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[quote=BBB] is "Chev Technical Region", or "Technical Chat Region", or "Chev Engineering Region" or "Automotive Intellect Region".... or..... [quote] Could the new region be?: Chevtech4all-Region Tech-service/Region Technic4allChevys-Region OnlyTechnical-Region GoTechnical Region-Technical Service Region When are you ready to receive the supplier's list for the web, Billy? 
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I agree with most of all of the above.
The prez is never wrong, so take it as Gospel. Let's wait for a formal approval from the higher ups. As of ten minutes ago, they have been asked for it in writing.
Billy Boy has said back in July (and I did too) that this group would never have it's own page here on Chatter as long as the other regions don't have one here. Time will tell.
I posted earlier that the name may change. Like Billy Boy says, it was the use of the word "chapter" that was the problem and the fact that we are not model specific. As the Non-Geo Motion was passed, the word "Chapter" was applied only to members that wanted to form a NGR for certain Chevy models. (Like "The Corvette Chapter of the VCCA"). I was informed that we might be refered to as "Group" to get this passed under the new motion for Non-Geo groups.
Using words like "Chat" or "Chapter" might have turned off some of the Board because it associated us too closely with these pages, or too closely to the newly approved Non-Geo Chapters.
So, we may have a name change. It might be our last name. It might be our first name, but I don't care. We got approved, let's wait for the official notice and onward and upward.
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How about:
1. "Chevy Computer Group of the VCCA" (CCG)
2. "Chevy Computer User Group of the VCCA" (CCUG)
3. "Computer Group of the VCCA" (CG)
4. "Computer User Group of the VCCA" (CUG)
5. "Chevy Computer Help Group of the VCCA" (CCHG)
6. "Computer Help Group of the VCCA" (CHG)
7. "Chevy Help Group of the VCCA" (CHG)
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JYD (or the Alpha Dog) Do you think we can play with the name while we wait and not get cause any problems?
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You can play with the name for only a short while. Somebody is probably working on getting the charter documents out to you in the next several days.
Just a wild thought - how about putting the word "Virtual" somewhere in the name? High tech, and all that...
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Once we receive official notification from the BOD of the VCCA then we can get going on the Chat Group. Most likely, the BOD will have specific rules in which we will have to follow but until we receive the actual specifics from the VCCA we will only be guessing at what is required. Sure, we can play around with names for the group, but again, maybe the BOD might have a suggestion as to what we should name the Chat Group. And, I think Billy Boy's idea of having the name more technical oriented is a good one! Also, instead of taking up a lot of room here in the General Forum of Chevy Chatter II possibly we should have our own page in which we can discuss the many things that we need to work out to accomplish the formation of the Chat Group. And, I'm sure that many of us are going to have lots of questions regarding the new Chat Group as well, including how are we going to do this on a VCCA membership basis only and etc. Most likely our good buddy Billy Boy Barker will have the answers to most of our questions, and by the time we get through this we are, no doubt, going to owe old Billy Boy several cases of beer! 
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I shouldn't be doing this, because I have other things to do.... but....  I was thinking about this.. and the PURPOSE of the new group. Then it hit me that around here we have a group of car buffs that meet every Tuesday morning for two hours to talk car talk. They meet at a local Denny's. It seems to me that this new GROUP is doing much the same thing, except you don't have to wait for Tuesday, you don't have to tip the waitress, AND you don't have to wear clothes!!!  So, how about a mixture of the following words: Virtual Online Chevy Car Talk Buff and of, course GROUP. So maybe: - Chev Talk GROUP
- Allnighters GROUP
- 7x24CarBuffs
- The Online Virtual Group
- No Clothing Necessary Group
- Online All-the-Time Group
- The Virtual Group
- Virtual Chevy Club of America (VCCA)
- Online Chevy Tech Group
and my favorite: Just kidding... - The Virtual Mechanics Group
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I agree with Ray regarding the name..........you can call me anything, but don't call me late for dinner!!! So we're a "group" instead of a "chapter"....so what?!!! We are official and approved...that's the important part brother Groupies. :grin: Bill Barker said..... So the idea of getting additional "technical" help, and "administrative" help might be the key here. None of us here in this "group" may be expert "technical" or "administrative" help, but I would like to think we could help Bill in some way because by helping Bill, we're helping VCCA grow and move into the future. Isn't that part of why we wanted to form up?? I'm ready to help Bill in any way he thinks I can. Spread the load, it makes life easier for everyone. What do you think guys? What do you think Bill? Wow, you guys posted while I was typing this one......neat names Bill.....just can't resist can you?
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Well, I will say this, Don't worry about a name. If you don't like the name, and can't get along with the thing being Chat Group. Then don't join. There had to be a decision made and Joe made it, let it be. Let's go forward and don't drag your feet sweating the small stuff. (IMHO) BBB, Yep, I've "been" thinking about it, but I come to the same conclusion. We can't offer up a "service" here (eg. a special password protected forum) unless we offer one to every single region. While that might not be a bad idea, we haven't ever discussed it before. I guess that I'd like to bounce it off the NEWLY RE-FORMED Technology Committee if that's what you think that you want to do. So what is the problem with with having a passworded forum for the Chat Group? We can use aportion of our dues money to help support the forum. I do think we need to pay dues, so that we can know it is a real VCCA Chat Group CLUB, and we are not riding on anyone elses back. If another region goes strictly internet, cross the bridge when you get there. (IMHO) You already have given Forums to special groups Tech Committee, Ray Holland's forum, The board of Directors. Did you have to run those items through a Technological Committee? I think that is what we need.....Our own forum where we can have a thread for an agenda, send in ideas for supporting the VCCA, a place to post club news etc....that should do it for now ...later we may need our own realtime chat room.
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I debated whether to reply tonight or let this simmer overnight, but I want to make sure that there's no misunderstanding.
I haven't ruled out giving the new virtual region a separate forum. I'm looking for guidance to assess the amount of additional work and whether I can count on other people assuming some of the load as necessary. The Technology Committee is my "boss" outside of going directly to the Executive Committee.
Your examples of the other forums don't make sense. Each of them had a special purpose for being created. -- Tech Committee is one of the official club committees. -- Board of Directors is the official team of club officers. -- Ray Holland's forum is NOT "his" forum, but rather a TECHNICAL forum where he is the MODERATOR for it.
Comparing these to a REGION/CHAPTER/GROUP forum is comparing apples to oranges.
I stand by my original assessment, that "if" we offer up a forum to the new virtual "region", then we should probably offer one to all other "regions". That's my only point. I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be the case.
So... having said that, (1) I'm still going to talk to the Technical Committee, (2) I'm going to solicit some help for the future, and (3) I'm going do an assessement as to what our additional bandwidth might be if we open up EIGHTY MORE FORUMS. This is only using due caution and common sense.
I hope to have an answer by the time that "we all" receive the newly minted paperwork sanctioning our new "region".
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JYD has it right. Get the official before we do anything that is undoable or detrimental but I dont see anything wrong in rattling the stones in the bucket (bytes in cyberspace) in readiness for the official go ahead. Tony
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Now that the approval has been given, where on the WWW will the chapter be found? The Chat Chapter website with log in and password?
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jyd & bbb, just let me know when and how I may help...I'll be there...  epi
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Billy Boy Barker is the expert here and he knows how to set up our Chat Group and how to handle each situation. We should let him do what he needs to do without hitting him with tons of ideas and questions at this point. After we get the official notification and then when we start the process of getting the Chat Group on line he can guide is in the direction or directions that we need to go. Let's make this as simple as possible and with him on board we can hopefully breeze through this.  :grin: 
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Maybe a name that describes what we do?
"Chevy Q&A Group" of the VCCA
"Virtual Q&A Group" of the VCCA
"On-Line Q&A Group" of the VCCA
"24-7 Q&A Group" of the VCCA
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