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OK guys I haven't seen anyone talk about steering gear box play yet. I have some play in my 31 coup steering. It has about .25" travel on the steering shaft before I get any actual output movement. I have a extra steering assembly that came with the car. So I thought I would try and adjust it before I tried the on on the car itself.
I "think" I followed the instructions correctly in the manual, but it too has about the same amount of play...............any advise?? Or is that normal?
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Your are lucky that you only have 1/4" of play. Most have more than that even when adjusted. If you want less it is expensive. I suggest that you adjust it according to the book and count your pennies and blessings.
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I think that this is about the amount that I have in a couple of my cars... one of them constantly increases. I need to readjust it every 100 to 200 miles or so.
So, I'd agree that if you can get it to stay at 1/4", then that's not too bad.
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I thank you all . I guess I will just have to find something else to worry about. (:
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If it's helpful, Shocks, I also have a fair amount of play on my '32 steering, and the overcorrecting from road sway was bugging me. Your story strikes a nerve because that what I was trying to do, too. However, I found a definite improvement in reducing road sway by replacing the ball joints and raising the tire pressure by a couple more pounds.
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Assume you have carefully checked alignment for proper toe in? Doesn't reduce play, obviously, but makes it less of a nusiance.
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Yes, I agree, that a good setting for toe in (I use 1") on the '28 and it works fine and also setting the air pressure a little above 35 PSI up to 40 PSI makes a good difference in handleing at high speed! like 55MPH
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1" MrMack? Do your tires wear exceptionally fast? The suggestion in the repair manual is 0-1/8". 
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The toe-in setting for the early six-cylinders is also 0-1/8". :eek: :eek: :eek:
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This is shocks again...when I say i have 1/4' of play, that is measured on the steering colum itself! Not on the steering wheel. At the steering wheel it could be, I guess three to four inches or so.....................??
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Total or from center to one side on the steering wheel? :confused: :confused: :confused:
"Backlash" is measured at the steering wheel.
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JYD......I had to put things back together but it looks like I have about 1.5 to 2" play in the steering wheel before I get a response on the steering gear box output shaft??
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Total or from center to one side on the steering wheel? :confused: :confused: :confused:
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OHhhhhhhhhhhh....I think I got you JYD. The play I measured is what I think you call TOTAL!
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After reading this I checked my '32. I replaced all of the tie rod balls, third member balls and pitman arm ball along with the mating cups and springs. The car has new king pins, wheel bearings and I rebuilt the steering sector. Boy, it sure would have been easier to just say the steering axle is totally rebuilt! Anyway, I moved the steering wheel back and forth while watching the front left wheel. I measured just a little over one inch of total movement at the outside diameter of the steering wheel before the front wheel started to show movement. Hope that helps!
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About the 55 mph, yes 55 is the top end of the cruzing range for the 28 it is completely stock and it seems to be doing ok at that speed, The gearbox sings a song but nothing banging or grinding. I don't hold it at that speed for over 5 or 6 miles at a time on flat ground. (we checked the speedometer on the 28 with our Tahoe) and the strange thing is the old ladies speedometer was right on with the Tahoe following......
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When you adjust the box be sure to adjust the bearings on the steering shaft (the steering wheel mounts to it). This is the main adjustment that is not done. Everyone want to screw down the pitman shaft adjustment and that should be the LAST adjustment that is done. Read the manual for your car and do them correctly and you should notice a difference....
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