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What would it take to start a fund raiser for the hurricane victims? The VCCA has about 8000 members and if we could get each one to give $10.00 dollars ( or more ) that would be pushing $80,000.
We all spend at least that amount for parts or beer quite often.
Could an article be put into the next G & D to start the ball rolling? If we did this it would bring a nice light to the antique car hobby. Any suggestions or ansewers? Thanks

hey sal,

sounds like a great idea...you can count me in...


epi

Count me in too.

Sterling OK?

How about each Chapter taking on a fund raiser like a cruise in. Maybe National would coordinate the funds. We could post the events and make some special offer to the car that makes the most number of events. Maybe we could get a sponsor. An insurance company, Mothers, Turtle wax, an oil company, any one of the tire companies. Think with me let's do something special. To start, count me in on the donation. Where do i send it ?

BINGO Bil, We at Lone Star Region of VCCA had a food drive, of non-perishable foods for our local charity that maintains a food center, That way it can be used for shelters and also to replace food shipped to the disaster areas. Have the members bring a box of can goods, and other foods,Powdered drink mix,Noodle dinners, Macaroni and cheese dinners, canned chili and tuna, stew. chicken etc. Most food centers will be willing to receive your stuff, just give them a call. Foods that require a minimum of cooking are appreciated.
I am predjidiced so I think the most effective way is to do this through your local Region, those that don't belong to a Region, this is a good time to locate one and join in. Others that don't do the Region thing get together just for this purpose, who knows you may eventually start your own special purpose group, like the Junkyard Dogs.

How about getting the government to use that $150 billion for the Mars trip and make it a Gulf Coast trip....or get the pork out of the budget, like the 150 million to build a bridge to an Alaskan island with 50 people on it, or not spending another $500,000 (budget was $300,000 final cost $500,000 and more on the way) to paint a fish on 1 727 (Alaskan Salmon). Anyone want to guess which state senator is in charge of the budget committee? His son back home is in charge of the plane painting...

Click on link below:

fishy fish plane


Politicians need to care about the whole country instead of just their home turf... (Which will never happen IMHO)

I understand we humans want to explore the unknown so how about exploring the unknown here first like the oceans and its ecosystems which we know very, very little about or global warming or treatments for diseases, etc, etc before we go to Mars...IMHO

Maybe Shakespear should have said "Politicians" instead of "lawyers"...then again they are about the same...aren't they?

It is true that a high percentage of elected officials (politicians) have law degrees.

From what I understand, "lawyers" are the biggest "category" of elected officials/politicians.

Bill.

Gator, don't we elect politicians to represent us, our state and congressional district, county and precincts? I don't want this new world order telling me what to do in Comanche County, Texas.

MM, that is NOT the oath they swear to when swore into office...

"Oath of Office

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."

Nothing in there about shafting the rest of the country in order to "buy" votes back home in Podunk. It in our NATIONAL government (in theory) that they swear to God to "... support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;...".

Maybe it is about time the potiticans in DC remember their oath no matter what it costs them back home; but of course this would take some guts.

MM...Our Constitution did make a "new world order" in 1789 and it still should be a great system...IMHO.

The Constitution, Article. I, sec. 8 (which are called the duties of congess*);

Clause 1: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Clause 2: To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

Clause 3: To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

Clause 4: To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Clause 5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

Clause 6: To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

Clause 8: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

Clause 9: To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

Clause 10: To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

Clause 11: To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

Clause 12: To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

Clause 13: To provide and maintain a Navy;

Clause 14: To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

Clause 15: To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

Clause 16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Clause 17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, byCession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

Clause 18: To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

* my words

Even the Texas members of congress and the state voted for a personal income tax :( :( :(

Article XVI.
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Proposal and Ratification

The sixteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States was proposed to the legislatures of the several States by the Sixty-first Congress on the 12th of July, 1909, and was declared, in a proclamation of the Secretary of State, dated the 25th of February, 1913, to have been ratified by 36 of the 48 States. The dates of ratification were: ...Texas, August 16, 1910...

However...The amendment was rejected (and not subsequently ratified) by Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Utah. Not ratified by Florida.

That was actually a selfish and smart move for the State of Texas's national politicians at that time, and quite the opposite of a "New World Order" movement since the tax was based on personal income and Texans were not as wealthy nor were there as many of them as states like New York, Penn. Etc. I bet they would not have been so generous with their approval had the tax been based upon the area of the state in square miles!


Remember what John Wayne would have said when he was eating that fried rabbit dinner.... "I really love bunnies!"

Here's an idea.
Our 2006 Member's vehicle calendar is just about ready. I got quotes and the numbers come out like this:
If we get 100 printed the cost is $10.30 each.
If we get 8000 printed the cost is $2.50 each.
If we could sell 8000 of these for say $4.00, we could donate the profits of $12000.00!!!!
Just a thought!

I have asked before and I missed the answer to "are the calendars advertized in the G&D?".

Now that we have examples of the past calendar for people to look at...why don't we try to sell advance orders at all of the meets and tours?

There are other mags that it may be wise to advertize in if we want to sell 8,000.

IMHO I think there should be a story in the G&D about how the calandar came about and about the hard work of jimk and others over the past couple of years to get it done.

Jimk, count me in! send me an email with you address and I'll get a check off to ya.
Great idea Jim. I think you should notify National and the G&D should print an add for this.
Thanks, Ray

What is the money earned from calendar sales used for now?

Hey Bingo Bill...

For the last two years Jim Knopp...aka jimk has stepped forward and worked for hours on end to produce a quality calendarfor for all VCCA members to have. He has posted it on line for all to have for free. He also had some high quality "hard copies" made that were offered to the members for the cost of printing. I can assure it was a labor of love on his part and he probably ended up in the hole on the overall project.

You can view Jim's work for 2004 and 2005 at http://briefcase.yahoo.com/jak1932

And this was started on Chatter...w/o Chatter it wouldn't have happened.

jimk has been THE driving force and should be recognized by the VCCA for his work and a story in the G&D would be nice. IMHO

Thanks fellows!
I'm just waiting for one member's vcca number then my proceedure is to let the owners of the vehicles proof their page(s). Once it is ok, I will post it where BigBob mentioned. BTW, thanks Bob -you are right I usually loose a couple of bucks a year doing this, but I'm not doing it for the money. What happens is I'll have x number of copies printed based on how many I'm asked for, then for whatever reason some always go unclaimed. No big deal - I just cannot get 8000 printed and get stuck holding a bunch of them.

Gator, your comment is probably the only way this will work (that I know of). "Now that we have examples of the past calendar for people to look at...why don't we try to sell advance orders at all of the meets and tours?"

I can tell you this, this year the calendar is even better so I think you'll all be happy with it. I'll notify everybody on this forum once it is ready.
Thanks!
Jim

Sounds like it could work. It will take a tremendous commitment on the part of jimk. Is there a way to job it out and accept credit card orders? This way Jim won't be snowed under and VCCA won't get stuck with calendars that don't get paid for.

People with calendars could show to friends/others and collect the $$$ right then and later when they order their copy of the calendar they would order 2 or 5 or 10 instead.

This way none of us would get stuck with extra calendars and no $$$ and hopefully none of us would stick our friends/others by not giving them the calendar they paid for already.

One person on a tour or at a meet or at a car show could walk around (some of us might have vendor spaces also) and do advance sales to the people.

Great gift for the holidays too.

Just an idea...don't shoot me.

I still think the G&D should give the calendar a nice big ad. A lot of people in the VCCA aren't on Chatter.

Who here knows someone that could get this done?