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#6654 10/13/03 10:22 AM
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It’s up in Michigan about 3 hours from me. I’m going to Michigan in 2 weeks and I’m going to try and get a look at it. If they let me I’ll get some pictures.

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That's a very nice car! However, the seller makes the following statement: "Attention Antique lovers! You'll love sportin around in this Beauty! 6 wheel Sedan, with only 1700, that's right 1700 original miles.This Beauty is All original 3 speed Trans, Waitin just for you."

Okay, if this car is "all original" with only 1,700 "original" miles, then why does it have a new paint job (the car is painted incorrectly by the way), new upholstery, aftermarket mirrors, aftermarket tail light lens, aftermarket sidemount tire covers, rubber valve stems, new chrome, no factory pinstriping, and etc.? With an asking price of $45,000 I would defintely question their statement about the car being all original with only 1,700 original miles! Looks more like a nicely restored (albeit incorrect in some areas) car to me. :eek: :eek:


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I agree, even a novice like me spotted some of those things. I really question the 1700 original miles. I’m going to try and get a look at this one in two week.


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Cool! And let us know what you find. Obviously, the seller is totally dreaming at the $45,000 figure, since that is way out of line for a "restored" '32 sedan! :eek: :eek: laugh laugh laugh


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Most likely, somebody who actually did the restoration on the car turned the odometer back to zero, as many of us do.

Then, the car got sold a couple of times.

Eventually, somebody (the present owner?) bought the car, who was, perhaps, shall we say, less closely in tune with the reality of such things, and believed the indicated miles. He looked at the car, and said "Gee, it looks about brand new to me!" and he doesn't understand what a 70+ year old car with incredibly low miles would actually look like. Not like this car, that's for sure!

I have seen this a few times before. The car may well have had 150,000 miles on it before it was restored.

The $45G sounds kinda high, too.....

Still, it's a neat car!

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Hi JYD!
I need an education. How could you tell the car has rechromed parts on it? I suspect you're saying the chrome would have deteriated in 71 years unless the car was in an enviromentally controlled climate? The same with the interior?
Finally, what did the OEM tail lights look like?
You and I have spoken before how things that are not right stand out like a sore thumb, and even I saw a couple of them, I'm just wondering what your thoughts are.
Thanks!

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Yes, the chrome looked too bright and shiny to be 71 years old. On the upholstery, there are wrinkles on the back cushion of the front seat near the top edge, the rolled pleats are too flat and etc.

The tail light itself is correct, but the lens is wrong. The correct lens would be celluloid, not glass, and there would be a Chevrolet Bow Tie in the center with "Chevrolet" in the center of the Bow Tie.

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Maybe the $45,00 is how much it cost to restore the car! :eek: :eek:

Sounds about right (maybe a little low if done by a professional shop). :(

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Is it me? Or are all the pictures just a tad out of focus?....MMMMM.....
Maybe he needs 45k to finish the renovation on his house. No way should this car be that high. And, I think the speedo has gone passed the 100mi. It is not in original condition. :rolleyes:


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Could be.......but at $45,000 for a sedan you would want it to be totally correct. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


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Unless that car was owned by King Faruque, there's no way (any) 32 is worth 45k.... :eek:


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Well, almost. A 1932 phaeton sold for almost that much a few years back. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


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Yeah...that's the one that was owned by King Faruque! wink


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Nope, it was owned by a real car collector! :eek: :eek: :eek:


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UPDATE: I talked to this guy and the car is on the move. He’s moving it from Michigan to Kentucky this weekend so I’m not going to get a look at it. It’s as some of you suggested. The car was restored some time ago and the details have been lost in the transactions. The only work he has done is to the motor. Apparently he was unhappy with the performance of a stock 32 motor and had it rebuilt. He says he had stainless steel valves, new-hardened seats, completely balanced, & Cam ground to hold the valves open longer. He claims a 20 HP increase, which he says, makes it more drivable. He purchased it from an 80-year-old man who had it in a museum. He had it appraised and believes it to be worth what he is asking ($45,000). Maybe it will come back on the market in a couple years when reality set in.


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"...new-hardened seats,..." wonder why he would do that, '32's don't need that from what I have been taught by the people "in the know" on other strings. :eek:

The 32 was developed before leaded gas was invented, so it is "ready to go" with todays's "new" unleaded gas. auto auto :cool2:

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It fits......based upon the rest of the wrong things that have been done to this car. :( :( :( :( :(


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That is right about the valve seats, but it makes the machine shop a little money on machine work, These guys are the ones promoting the harden seats. probably ok on a mustle car from the early 60s or 70s


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...and you don't know if they did the work or not...never liked taking (or leaving) my car to a shop where they "don't allow customers in the shop (insurance excuse used here)". If I can't watch or see it done I go somewhere else. :eek:

And yes, I have had to point out to several shops that they had "forgotten" to put back a necessary part. Plus some other horror stories. curse

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