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I don't mean to start promoting modified vehicles but most of the other Chevrolet clubs do.
I see no need to add MODIFYED vehicles to the roster. laugh

There are plenty of clubs to address that need. :eek:
There aren't too many clubs interested in preserving what Chevrolet built.
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If you add modified vehicles to the roster, then there is a good chance that a lot of people would become upset and drop out. Bowtieollie is right. At any of the car shows up in my region the cars are about 75% hot rods. If you really want more people try something else, like lowering dues or something, but definately keep it an all-original club.


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Lowering dues? of $30.00 for a year (35 for a joint membership for couples) and getting a first class magazine every month! and having the two websites vcca.org and this one vccachat.org... Man if this ain't a heck of a deal, I don't know a deal when I see one!

Bowtieollie is right, there are more Chevy clubs that cater to Cameros, Tri-fives, car & trucks hot rods, restorarods and Chevy powered street rods than you can shake a tire iron at....As for the Restoration and preservation of Chevrolets over 25 years old to the original condition what do you have?

You have:
The Vintage Chevrolet Car Club of America!..... And Boy howdy, We are going to keep it that way!

Not that you aren't welcome to join if you have or like, what we call modifieds, but don't try to change our culture, please.....


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Hum......I agree........except that you don't have to be a member of the VCCA to access the VCCA web site or Chevy Chatter........(not yet anyway), so that shouldn't be considered as part of the annual dues for the club. laugh laugh laugh


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I think 30 bucks is a good deal and I think it's great outsiders can access the chat room! I hope we keep it that way. dance

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It is a good deal, I am just saying if you really wanted more members. Just a suggestion!


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As I remember, I think that one of the board members posted here awhile back that they are working on making Chevy Chatter for VCCA members only. :eek: :eek:


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...Yeah, I wonder if that came out in the wash?


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JYD... I think that member was suggesting the VCCA might lose it's 501(c)3 status. (Non-Profit status)

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BigBob: Check out page 15 of the July 2004 edition of the G&D. As part of the 2004 National Board Minutes, Motion 03-16 was voted on and approved by the majority of the board members. The motion is titled "VCCA National Membership Requirement and Participation on the VCCA Chat Page", and it states as follows:

"The exact wording of the motion was changed by the committee to state: 'National VCCA Membership is necessary to be a member of the VCCA Chat site.' Currently the chat site is operating in conflict with the VCCA policies and by-laws concerning membership and participation. Discussion included methods and responsiblity for membership participation validation. To support member's needs for an Internet chat site, quick validation and response to members wanting to join the chat site is required. The implementation will be a responsibliity of the Technology Committee."

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Thanks, JYD

I don't remember seeing the article, although I seem to remember bits and pieces of the chat members kicking it around. I will dig out that back issue and read the whole article.

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OK Pulled the July 2004 issue of G&D and now I remember.

Whether one agrees or disagrees with all the decisions, those folks do a lot of work for the group. My hat is off to them!! laugh laugh laugh dance

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I'm sure your post helped to keep it quiet Chipper.... :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

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Originally posted by Chipper:
Because the VCCA does not and will not for some time have the ability to restrict the Chat site to members only, the Board has created a situation where they created a violation of Federal anti-discrimination laws that they were concerned with. Sorry but I can not cite chapter and verse. It was a stupid action by people that did not know what they were doing. I only hope that the IRS does not decide to audit the VCCA again or someone does not turn us into the Feds. We surely could loose our non-profit status with that action.
John Mahoney authored motion 03-16 titled: VCCA National Membership Requirements & Participation On VCCA Chat Site. It sure would be ironic if the VCCA lost it's non-profit status because of it.


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From one little statement about what a good deal VCCA membership is for a $30 annual membership fee is, all this discussion resulted?
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Lowering dues? of $30.00 for a year (35 for a joint membership for couples) and getting a first class magazine every month! and having the two websites vcca.org and this one vccachat.org... Man if this ain't a heck of a deal, I don't know a deal when I see one!
Well then I stand corrected.....

Then I ask.
How is this site supported?
By all of the members of vccachat.org that are non-members of VCCA?
Not a chance!


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ya got that right, macky...there's no better deal around...and those that benefit from this site oughta also support it: join the vcca...what's $30 these days?..half a tank of gas around here!..


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NCRS, also a not for profit orginization, has a chat line similar to vcca's chatter. non-members can view the forum but to post messages, ya gotta be a card carrying member of ncrs. mike

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Mike I think that is the best way to go. You still have the outreach factor and maybe the ability to post querys is another incentive to join, if someone is pondering the situation,

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Mr Mack and Mike,
That is the reason why I wrote the motion, and why the board voted for it. I thought it should be run like a meet, if your not a member you can look at our cars all you want, but you have to be a member to park on the field.
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John, If that is the case, Is there still research being done to accomplish this goal? I would believe that a encrypted computer digitized membership data base could be used to permit access to members for posting purposes, Is that what the resistance is? creating a computerized membership list?

The Chevytalk forums use some method to login and restrict access to post querys and replys, so it must not take an NASA rocket scientist team to implement a simular setup here.

Where do we stand at the present, maybe we will? or, maybe we won't?
I feel that dues paying members of VCCA should know that they have some stock in the site, more so than non-VCCA members, I realize that we are fairly represented by the National Board thru our Area Repersenative on the national Board and those At Large Directors we are allowed to vote for or against.
I also feel we should get timely news of what is going on in the club thru a venue such as this website, and not have to wait six months for it to be published in the G&D or leaked thru a member that attends the BOD meetings. I want to commend you for being truthful and upfront with us here.


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I want to commend you for being truthful and upfront with us here.
You can't be serious!!!!

You, as well as every other person who has access to the Moderator Tips & Gossip forum, know the real motivation behind this motion. It is spelled out in the topic entitled "Lil' Johnny", started by John 348/340hp on June 13, 2003 .


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Speedline, I admit I am not right all the time, I just call'em as I see'em, and try not to judge others in public. Have a good day!


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Okay, enough already. I've emailed some of you to see if you could get the thread back on track, but apparently not. The title was " Do you think that VCCA should change it's logo? "

This was an excellant question and a good one to discuss in public.... but apparently not everyone wants to stay on-track.

So I'm locking this thread now. BowTieOllie , thanks for picking up on an interesting topic, and one that might yet have some merit to it. If you want to continue it in another thread, then please feel free to start one. I"ll keep a closer watch to see that it stays on track.

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