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Hello. Are this the correct color for 25-28 engines? This pictures are taken from ebay. Regards Arvid http://www.chevroletnorge.com
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I saw you online: Thanks Arvid, now I see what all I'm missing on my engines. I can't help you with the color, mine are rust brown :) Have a great weekend, I know it's almost over for you, we're having lunch :)
CU Richard
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Thank you Richard. I restore the engines for my -28 touring. New pistons etc. And I like to have (approximately) the right color on the engine. I have a -28 airfilter with orginal decal and, I think ,orginal paint. But this color looks darker green than the color on the engines above. I post a pictures on my -25 truck engines some times ago, and AntiqueMechanic says the color was wrong.It was darker green than the engines above. I know The Filling station have the right color ,but sending paint airmail are a little risky. If they do it. Have a nice day Richard :) Regards Arvid http://www.chevroletnorge.com
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Yeah,I have seen those pictures, it looks darker, once you have the right color code you should be able to get it in Norway, I've seen a site like that. Lets see if I can find it back. I'll report here. Stay warm Richard
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This comes from Mack on ChevyTalk, I hope it is helpfull As to the striping on you tourer: My copy of the 1928 striping and color combinations: Colors for the 1928 touring and roadster are January 1, 1928 to---
body Falmouth Gray dupont # 2441287 body stripe French Gray medium dupont # 281503 body mouldings Black dupont # 2443312 Hood To match Body Disc Wheels to match body wood wheels natural windshield frame Falmouth Gray
March 1, 1928 to --
Body Yorktown Green dupont # 2441554 body stripe cream dupont # 2815546 Body moldings Black hood to match body disc wheels to match body wood wheels natural windshield frame Yorktown Green
Stripe on body moulding , black to cover bead and a 1/16 inch wide stripe on centerline of the bead (body moulding)
Wheel stripe on the Falmouth gray disc is 2 stripes (5/32 inch wide) of french gray medium and one is 8 7/8" diameter and the second one is 15? inch (my copy is so blurred I can't make out the figures for the outside diameter stripe), I will look for a text file that had the diameter and get back....
( I looked in my files and the outer stripe is 15 1/2" in diameter....) I gave Mack your website address and Email, if there's no response please let me know and I'll dig a bit more. I hope this helps and I asked him for the engine color too. Lets see if he writes you. CU RR
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This was the page I was looking for paint colors but no engine in there either, not giving up yet, I'll be back
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Looking at colors on a computer is dangerous as each screen shows just a tad different, however here is a 1928 engine just dropped into the engine compartment.
RAY Chevradioman http://www.vccacolumbiariverregion.org/1925 Superior K Roadster 1928 Convertible, Sport, Cabriolet 1933 Eagle, Coupe 1941 Master Deluxe 5-Passenger Coupe 1950 Styleline Deluxe 4-Door Sedan 1950 Styleline Deluxe Convertible 2002 Pontiac, Montana, Passenger Van 2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ 2017 Silverado, Double Cab, Z71, 4X4, White, Standard Bed, LTZ If you need a shoulder to cry on, pull off to the side of the road. Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
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He Ray, that's looking very good, can you do my engine ? Arvid, the picture of Rays engine seems to be the right color, more gray than the other engine you showed here. It's not a new question: I found this on the world famous VCCA forum Lots of reading for you: https://vccachat.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=000243#000001 http://www.danroy.com/truck/master.html https://vccachat.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=000207#000020 https://vccachat.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=000132#000000 https://vccachat.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=000004#000001 https://vccachat.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=000319#000000 I hope this helps, I'm going out to see if there's a spot with paint on it on my engines, if.. I'll be back later Regards Richard
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Hi again, Although not ask for right now, here is the guide on the various colors used in the 1928 engine compartment. ENGINE COMPARTMENT COLORS
RAY Chevradioman http://www.vccacolumbiariverregion.org/1925 Superior K Roadster 1928 Convertible, Sport, Cabriolet 1933 Eagle, Coupe 1941 Master Deluxe 5-Passenger Coupe 1950 Styleline Deluxe 4-Door Sedan 1950 Styleline Deluxe Convertible 2002 Pontiac, Montana, Passenger Van 2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ 2017 Silverado, Double Cab, Z71, 4X4, White, Standard Bed, LTZ If you need a shoulder to cry on, pull off to the side of the road. Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
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Great Ray, I mailed it to the biggest Chevynut I know, me :) Arvid will pick it up tonight, he is 8 or 9 hours ahead of us.
Thanks for sharing, it will take a while, but that's going to be the colors of my engine and under hood parts.
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The color on the eBay engine photos could have been the correct color at one time. Heat, sunlight, oil and other materials can cause the paint color to change over many years.
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I've been sumwhat following this topic. I by know means know enough to help but will toss in my 2 cents worth. in 2000 when I purcased my 28 coupe from its 30 years of hibernation ( from ex vcca member ) the colour was rust. I contacted ( at the time ) the 28 tech advisor and he pointed out the paint from "bill hirsch" was the correct green-gray for all early 4 cylinders - so I purchased the paint from him and painted my engine. Now I am see ( and reading ) that my green-gray I have painted is too dark If you read "chevyguru's post from november 14 2005 under the heading " bad judging experience" he tells of the filling station paint being wrong as well Is this going to be one of those " only the shadow knows for sure" type of problems
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I wouldn't trust the color of any Chevrolet engine paint that Bill Hirsch sells as being correct. :( :( :( :(
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If you read "chevyguru's post from november 14 2005 under the heading " bad judging experience" he tells of the filling station paint being wrong as well 38653 please go back and read that post again. The paint the filling station carries is the correct paint. It was the judges that were wrong. We have had enough troubles with the 4-cylinder paint. Let's not get the argument started again on an incorrect post.
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...Yet another Chatter topic I am going to save for my restoration notebook. Thanks for allowing us to share in the wealth of knowledge!
Arvid - What major brands of paint are available in Norway? Maybe we could get a can of paint from the filling station (I'm going to be needing some anyway) and have a good paint person make up a reasonably close formula for a brand that is available to you in Norway...It may not be so simple??? (I'm sure it took a lot of time and effort to get the formula right for the guys at the Filling Station - and I'm sure some of the VCCA folks had a lot to do with that)...Just a thought.
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Thank you ALL for input. :) And very great new info for me.My Englich are not so good,so it take time to read it. Tyler: If I be able to find a part in my garage with correct color,I will mix the paint myself.I have sandblasted parts ready to be painted.Thank you anyway. Today I have find more part in my storage room. Here are pictures of a -27 head and air cleaner. The cleaner has only one layer of paint , and its dark green.And I think this is the orginal paints. Have the engines and air cleaner different color? Or, my be the heat from the manifold have darken it? Are the head color approximately the right? The color from ebay pictures and my -27 head are quite identical. RAY's engines color are different . I agree with RAY "colors on a computer is dangerous" Regards Arvid http://www.chevroletnorge.com
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And then we have always the option that European Vehicles were a different color. Were they assembled in Europe ?? I have read that Canadian vehicles had sometimes a different color, but it doesn't say if that was for the engine too. Such a shame that info like that gets lost in time and I'm glad that you guys at least are trying to save this for my grandsons and their kids, so they can keep truck'26 alive. With only three daughters we have to skip a generation. Although the oldest is redoing a Camaro '67 and drives a '70 as a daily driver. I would love to snoop through Arvid’s store room; he must have lots of goodies in there. Did you see his projects on his website; I would call him a Chevy junky from the twenties. In a very good way Arvid! :) Thanks for the info Gentlemen
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Don't listen to Richard, when he talk about Arvid. He most have take to much beer :) Regards Arvid
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LOL I'm not that grey, yet , but I do like my beer in the evening, you got that right. You are too modest Arvid, the way you make your own tools, parts and castings, I bet lots of guys here wish they could do 1/2 of what you do and so do I. And if you keep posting those pictures of me then I'll post all the pictures you sent me, so they know you're a Master Mechanic and Toolmaker. Take care and keep them going Richard
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RAY When I said " he said it was wrong ( chevyguru) " I was just getting to the point of the fact that someone told him the paint was wrong, the same now that I know the "bill hirsch" paint is wrong after a vcca tech advisior for 1928 told me it was right - now must strip and re-paint motor If anyone read into the statement making it sound like chevyguru was incorrect on the colour I am sorry to chevyguru for any negitive impact this may cause
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It is unfortunate that all of the VCCA TA's are not present and active on this forum. I am NOT the TA for 1928, however I do have two of them and have spent hours/days learning about them. In addition to being helpful on this forum, the TAs could keep abreast of a vast catalog of information that is presented on this forum.
RAY Chevradioman http://www.vccacolumbiariverregion.org/1925 Superior K Roadster 1928 Convertible, Sport, Cabriolet 1933 Eagle, Coupe 1941 Master Deluxe 5-Passenger Coupe 1950 Styleline Deluxe 4-Door Sedan 1950 Styleline Deluxe Convertible 2002 Pontiac, Montana, Passenger Van 2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ 2017 Silverado, Double Cab, Z71, 4X4, White, Standard Bed, LTZ If you need a shoulder to cry on, pull off to the side of the road. Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
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Arvid, I have mentioned this before but it is worth a repeat. Before painting my engine I searched all the posts for the right colour, drab green, Bell truck green etc, and eventually painted it a grey green. Another rebuilder from a different region who visited me looked at the engine and said that it should be dark green. I argued and showed him copies of the posts. He sent me a sample of "Shamrock green" and said this was close and that he had seen 'original paint' in his club that matched.
Subsequently I rescued a 27 head from a junk yard that was painted the 6 cylinder blue grey colour. I was steam cleaning it and under the blue grey there was dark green, slightly darker than the "Shamrock Green".
My conclusion, the South African engines were definitely a dark green. This might apply to the right hand drive cars or perhaps export cars.
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Richard. The beer drinking was a joke. :) I am sure you have other thigs to do than drink beer all day long.
DaveT. This was very interesting. Today I have take new look on my 25-28 parts. Gorrsssss. I have 11 engines block and 15 heads !!! Only one top (picture) and one block have the grey color(ebay lock) All others block / head are dark green, black or not painted. Chevrolet assembely plants for Sandinavia was in Sveden (Stockholm) and in Danmark (Kopenhagen). My be they paint the engine dark green? I don't know. Do you have pictures of your engine with "Shamrock green" or you think "Shamrock green" are equal to my -28 air cleaner(picture).
I will not take the car to Hershey for judging anyway, but I like to have car / parts so original as possible
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There is a string on the '29-'32 category that deals with the clutch fork and spring and there is a picture posted showing the set-up; a piece of the motor is showing and it is a dark green, maybe that picture is showing the right motor color for you?????
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Ha, that's his truck, that is his '25 Chevy, he collects them.
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