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I have one of those cars that appears to be assembled with parts from various years. In order to start a proper restoration I need to know when and where the basic vehicle was made. The identification plate is missing so I also need to know the range of serial numbers that would be appropriate so I can start searching for a plate. I bought the car about 15 years ago in Canada about 5 miles north of the Maine border. The gentleman I bought the car from told me it was a 1925 Superior K Sedan. I have done some research and the majority of the parts on the car suggests it is an early 1925. There are other parts and features on the car that appear different from what should be there and that is where I need some help. The following list suggests that it is an early 25:
Block casting number is 344624 Oil pump is mounted behind generator Horn is mounted on fire wall Spark and throttle levers on steering column Round tail light lense
The following is a list of parts that I need help identifying to see if they are appropriate for an early 1925:
The headlights mount to the fender with no tie bar but are bullet shaped instead of sauce pan shaped.
The windshield is fixed in place without a regulator and appears to be original to the rest of the frame.
Spoke wheels instead of disc
The radiator bottom outlet is on the passenger side instead of the drivers side.
Radiator shell is steel instead of aluminum.
I would to try and scan some pictures but I have never done it so I need some help on how to do it.
Thank you in advance for any help.........
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The headlights mount to the fender with no tie bar but are bullet shaped instead of sauce pan shaped. The headlights should mount to the fender without a tie-bar. They are NOT bullet shape. The windshield is fixed in place without a regulator and appears to be original to the rest of the frame. That would be correct for a sedan. Spoke wheels instead of disc You could have it either way. The radiator bottom outlet is on the passenger side instead of the drivers side. That description fits a 1926 radiator. Radiator shell is steel instead of aluminum. The steel shell was used on the commercial and not the passenger. 
RAY Chevradioman http://www.vccacolumbiariverregion.org/1925 Superior K Roadster 1928 Convertible, Sport, Cabriolet 1933 Eagle, Coupe 1941 Master Deluxe 5-Passenger Coupe 1950 Styleline Deluxe 4-Door Sedan 1950 Styleline Deluxe Convertible 2002 Pontiac, Montana, Passenger Van 2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ 2017 Silverado, Double Cab, Z71, 4X4, White, Standard Bed, LTZ If you need a shoulder to cry on, pull off to the side of the road. Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
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Thanks for the help Ray, I still have a few questions. I found a book that said all Series K closed models used the fisher vertical ventilating one-piece windshield that could be raised a few inches to allow for ventilation. Was that type of windshield installed only on coaches? My windshield is does not move. Also, is it possible to figure out if the car was built in Canada or the U.S. from other part numbers on the car? Finally, is it possible to figure out a range of serial numbers that would be appropriate for the car. Thanks...................
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Captain D - My 1925 Touring is the late K model with the spark and throttle controls on the dash, the early style headlight bar, horn mounted on the firewall and the bottom radiator hose on the driver's side. The casting number on the block is 344624 with a July 8, 1925 date (7 8 25). The stamped number on the block is 1812976. The front seat tag has the stamped serial number 6 K 29107.
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I misread your question. All open cars (touring-roadster) had a two piece windshield and both parts were moveable by rotating. As you read, the closed cars had the ability to move the glass vertically within the frame. This was the VV characteristic. Have you located any dates either on the block or head. This would provide more information as to when the vehicle was built. 
RAY Chevradioman http://www.vccacolumbiariverregion.org/1925 Superior K Roadster 1928 Convertible, Sport, Cabriolet 1933 Eagle, Coupe 1941 Master Deluxe 5-Passenger Coupe 1950 Styleline Deluxe 4-Door Sedan 1950 Styleline Deluxe Convertible 2002 Pontiac, Montana, Passenger Van 2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ 2017 Silverado, Double Cab, Z71, 4X4, White, Standard Bed, LTZ If you need a shoulder to cry on, pull off to the side of the road. Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
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A steel rad shell is also used on the canadian passenger cars. the shell was nickle plated ( chromed)this is to the best of MY knowledge.
27 speedster, 28 coupe, 67 camaro, 67 p/u, 75 vega and now 1920 490
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