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Hi All

Any help on the correct Battery for my 28 would be appreciated. I will go with a repro (Duh!) Any specific configuration? There are a couple vendors out there reproing the Delco Battery.
thanks for the anticipated response.

mromano

Hi mromano,

Lets not get started down that road. Here is the reason why.

Your car came equipped with one of the following Group 1, 6-volt batteries:

Willard Storage Battery Co.
Electric Storage Battery Co.
United States Light and Heat Corp.

Unless your car is equipped with one of those batteries it would not be correct technically. I have participated in numerous official judgings and this has never been a problem for not having the exact correct battery.

Good answer Antique Mechanic.

[Let me preface the following comments that they are in no way directed at Mromano. His question was based on the information available to him. Many, many others believe (including an implication in the VCCA Judging Manual) that Delco batteries were used in all Chevrolets.]

Most people assume that a Delco battery is the correct one for all Chevrolets. They also assume that the reproductions are correct for many years. In fact they are advertised that way. People believe the advertisements and then get plenty upset when told that the battery is not correct. "People" includes owners as well as judges.

I am constantly amazed that facts that are published in the G&D (not batteries in this case)in the past few years are ignored and people continue to believe things that are not correct. Then there are another number of items that have been discussed "ob nausium" in forums in this site that have also been ignored (yes batteries in early Chevrolets have been discussed) or not searched for or found. I don't know what we can do help improve this but some brilliant person may have a partial solution.

Ray and ChevyChip

Thanks so much for the correct info. Yes, I was going on info given to me. I was also under the impression that Delco was used in all Chevys. I now stand corrected and educated. I got to ask....anyone reproducing the correct battery? Thanks again and we are lucky to have guys like you to share your knowledge on this forum.

mromano

None of the three correct batteries are being reproduced TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

In judging 4-cylinders at all levels I have seen just about any make of battery imaginable. All are acceptable in my opinion.

Ditto on acceptable though not correct. A situation were nearly everyone is in the same position. However I am aware that there are some of the earlier batteries in existance. Don't know of any in operating condition but if one was ever restored to operating condition the person should get credit for the effort and the rest of us would benefit being able to see what was originally installed.

I thought the reproduction Willard Group 1 Battery that is made by Antique Auto Battery meets the intent on 1916 - 28 Chev 4 [and V-8] for VCCA Judging? They are the same company that supplies the incorrect DELCO for our Chev 4's.
KenK

Ken is correct, the Willard is reproduced by Antique Auto Battery, photo at:

http://www.antiqueautobattery.com/g1w-g2w-.htm


Believe it or not, I put the repro Delco in my '25, to avoid possible conflict with any judges who did not know / believe the Willard, even though it is stated in the original literature!

chev guru,

thanks for the link...


epi

I recently purchased what I beleive is an original envelope and original literature for a '24 Superior. The main reason that I purchased this set was for the Willard Battery and Alemite instructions. I wanted to learn what the battery looked like.

I would be happy to copy the battery info for anyone interested.

Hi All

Just ordered a WILLARD battery from Antique Auto Battery. it was $125 plus shipping. I am trying so hard to be correct in this restoration that this price was acceptable to me. Again, thanks to all who contribute to this forum. i am sure there will be more questions in the future.

Love my 28

mromano

Hi again

Just a thought, i will make a hard copy of these posts and carry them with me so I have something if there is a question about the battery and I do this with any other parts/info that may be in conflict.

thanks
mromano

That's a good thought. You might also look at the first couple of pages in the Repair Manual (or Owner's Manual?); it lists Willard as one of the battery suppliers to Chevrolet, in the area with the specs on the car.

Hi from downunder
My 28 2 door sedan came from St.Paul Minneapolis
It is in totally original unrestored condition.
When I took out the back seat there were 2 items, a card letting the dealer know what air pressure to put in the tyres etc. the 2nd was a Willard battery brochure
Chris

Hi Cris
Does your Willard brochure show a hard rubber type battery case?

Judging from the Instruction Manuals the wooden case last wooden case would have been used on the Series V's?

Any documentation on this?
KenK

If we are going to continue with the discussion of the possible publications that are contained in the envelope that came with the car, here are three of them. Can't assure you these items were in the envelope, however they cover various items that are correct for the time frame.
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Thanks for posting the pictures Ray. That is the Willard battery pamphlet that I have.

Chris

Ray
When did the Flint factory used sparks plugs made in Toledo? I always thought this Toledo company made plugs for the Model T?

My Electrical Charts list for 1927-28 shows a Willard Type XW-13 Battery.
KenK

I am trying to get the correct battery information to submit to Autique Auto Battery. They do make a Willard reproduction battery, but their books do list the "Delco" as the correct battery for the early Chevrolet. My wife took their advise when purchassing my birthday present, so now I get to return a Delco battery.

My information lists the Willard SJXR-3 for the 1923 and 1924 Chevrolet. Ken also listed a XW-13 for the 1927-28. Does anyone have any other information that I can pass on?

Thanks. I hope we can pull together to get the correct information to the current suppliers.

The Chevrolet Repair Manual for the 1928 Chevrolet still lists Willard, Electric Storage Battery Co., and United States Light & Heat Co, as battery manufacturers. Delco, nor any other battery, is noted in any 4-cylinder publication.

#chevguroo
Down Under
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posted January 19, 2004 18:16January 19, 2004 18:16

Hi from downunder
My 28 2 door sedan came from St.Paul Minneapolis
It is in totally original unrestored condition.
When I took out the back seat there were 2 items, a card letting the dealer know what air pressure to put in the tyres etc. the 2nd was a Willard battery brochure
Chris

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Images were posted as a courtesy for Chris from down under.

This discussion thread has been printed off and correct Willard information sent to Antique Auto Battery.