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#49954 05/11/04 10:20 PM
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The Central Meet etc.are regional meets-awards are national-ie.,If you recieve an award at one regional meet it is recognized at all regional meets.The awards at a national (anniversary) meet are are for that meet only and do not carry over to any other meets.Does this sound correct???

Looking in the April G&D under "Upcoming Events" I see two tours that are listed as National Tours and of the seven meets listed some are described as National and some not.????


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Just thought I would jerk someones chain a little but noone will bite. Have a nice day folks.
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Backroads, how about Area meets?
Region, Area, and National?

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"Area" shouldn't even be in the nomenclature. To make it simple the meets should be either regional or national. Ya! ha ha! dance dance drink drink laugh laugh


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Just combine the titles of the 2 categories into just 1. "National/Regional VCCA Meets & Events "

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...Or even just ((( VCCA events! )))

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Also...

This particular tour has Southern in it for the area, if not the Area maybe because it has been sponsered in years past by the area Director of several regions, Bill Bradford? It has attracted members from a more general area than just the Southern area. This was a really enjoyable event. This year the local region setup and ran the tour, this procedure seemed to work very well. Some regions are better funded than others and several regions working together can do events that a local region with many good touring attractions, and a shortage of funds may not be able to do.


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"National/Regional VCCA Meets & Events".

That even makes it more confusing than what we have now. We need to make things easier to understand, not more difficult. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


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I guess one reason I didn't understand is that all but the last of the National Early Six Cylinder Tours have been hosted by one, two, or three mambers without Region support.
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A National meet is one that uses the VCCA Judging form and award system. Each one requires approval of the Area Board Member for the Area where the meet is held. Only one National meet per Area each year. A specific number of pages in the G&D can be used to promote the meet. The Anniversary Meets (every 5 years) are special meets.

A regional meet is one that does not use VCCA Judging and awards. There is no limit on them. They do not require Area Board Member approval but it is encouraged to inform them so that conflicts are minimized. A lesser number of pages in the G&D are available if the meet has received Area Board Member approval.

Tours have not actually been classified. All "National Tours" require Area Board Member approval for the notice to be published in the G&D. A regional tour does not need approval and does not get promotional space in the G&D except for possibly the "Upcoming Events". The touring committee is working on criteria.

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Yep! Sounds like the VCCA needs to throw the book away and start over.

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Its not all as bad or complicated as its sounds :confused: chevy :confused: dance


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Okay, if I have this right....a meet that is sponsored by a region and it doesn't have judging then it is considered a regional meet. If a meet is sponsored by a region and it has judging then it is considered a national meet even though all regions use the VCCA judging forms anyway, unless of course, they don't and they use their own judging, like People's Choice, which in that case it would be a regional meet and not a national meet after all. And, the Anniversary Meet, which is sponsored by the national VCCA, is a national meet, even though it is a special meet, and they use the same judging forms as the regions, but the judging results that are received at a regional meet, which is really a national meet because there is judging, are not used at a national meet, which is an Anniversary Meet, because the Anniversary Meet is a different kind of a special national meet than when judging is done at a regional meet, which is really a national meet in the first place. Do I have this right?

Yep, you are right.....it doesn't sound all that complicated!

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It'll work for me, since I just prefer going to tours which can or may or maybe they aren't either meets or special meets but must have approval...unless they don't need approval,

Ok Now, I got that straight......


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Are the tours that you go on regional tours without approval, or national tours with approval? And, if you have judging on a regional tour without approval, then does that tour become a national meet instead of a regional tour without approval or is it actually now a national tour with approval? He he! laugh laugh laugh laugh


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Sometimes, yep, don't, nope, yep, nope!


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That makes about as much sense as the rest of the scenario! laugh laugh laugh laugh


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Maybe a categogy titled "VCCA tours" and like MrMack said "VCCA events" or "VCCA Meets".

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