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Hy Guys,


I'm looking for vin numbers from 1922 for 1-ton trucks
My engine has a number from 1928, but has 224cui with 37 HP, which was only available until 1922, the vehicle never drove in the USA, was shipped directly from the factory to Germany, the clutch is with a cone, the gearbox has 3 speeds, The fenders are rounded without edges, the front flat springs protrude from the front,

sorry for the English, it was translated by Google

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Are you wanting to know where the VIN number would be located? In the US most states used the engine number up to 1955. I have no clue what Germany used. I'll move this to a forum with more traffic to hopefully get you some answers.


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The photos are of a 1927 or 1928 Chevrolet 1 ton truck. Given the 1928 engine number it is more likely a 1928 than an earlier year.


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Originally Posted by Chipper
The photos are of a 1927 or 1928 Chevrolet 1 ton truck. Given the 1928 engine number it is more likely a 1928 than an earlier year.

I know what the photo looks like, but in 1928 there was no 4cyl with 224cui and 37hp, it was only available from 1917-1922 on the Chevrolet 490 which had the same fenders

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Pictures of the engine in question may help.


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Originally Posted by Tiny
Are you wanting to know where the VIN number would be located? In the US most states used the engine number up to 1955. I have no clue what Germany used. I'll move this to a forum with more traffic to hopefully get you some answers.

I know that normally it's about the engine, but again, the engine number is definitely from 1928, but this engine was no longer manufactured, but instead the 6cyl, this engine has 224 cui with 37hp, was made in 1918-1922 Trucks installed, was the most powerful 4cyl, this chassis was never driven in the USA only in Germany

But actually I'm looking for a list of Vin, or engine numbers that were used in the 1920 -1922 range 😉

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I don't know if such lists exist. GM didn't care much for keeping those records. The next one that came down the line got the next number. When the line stopped so did the stamping. I don't know if they kept track of what the number was. Good luck with your search. Maybe contact the GM Heritage Center?


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The 1922 1 ton trucks were called Model T (not a 490) and used the same engine and transmission as the Model FB passenger cars. They both used the three exhaust port heads. Those trucks were very different than the truck pictured in the initial post. As posted a few photos of the engine will help identify it. The engine serial number is stamped on the front engine mount.


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Where did you get your information about the 224 displacement and 37 HP? Can you see the cone clutch?
The 6 cylinder engine began in 1929

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. Here's a list of casting numbers: <http://home.znet.com/c1937/Cast.htm>. Do not confuse these with stamped serial numbers. . The pictures appear to show a 27 or -early 28 one ton chassis (photo #1). If the 20" tire rims are held to the wood wheels with 6 lug bolts, It's a One Ton. The fenders appear to be from a 27 or 28 passenger car. The body (cab) appears to be made from an older non-Chevy sedan. Photo #2 shows Chevy cab with two body belts and cowl lights. I look forward to seeing photos of the engine for positive identification. The vin number for the flat face cowl is somewhere on the cowl. The Chevy Cab and Panel models have the vin plate on the right seat riser. Here's vin information <http://home.znet.com/c1937/ID.htm> but no 4 cylinder info. Yours vin should read LM or LO. .
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I added 2 more engine photos, hope it helps

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Originally Posted by 35Mike
Where did you get your information about the 224 displacement and 37 HP? Can you see the cone clutch?
The 6 cylinder engine began in 1929

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I had the oil pan at the bottom and was able to measure the stroke and diameter of the cylinder

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Originally Posted by 35Mike
Where did you get your information about the 224 displacement and 37 HP? Can you see the cone clutch?
The 6 cylinder engine began in 1929

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I had the oil pan at the bottom and was able to measure the stroke and diameter of the cylinder

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This is the sheet metal that is mounted, the Fisherbody came from Germany

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Originally Posted by Chevy77
Originally Posted by Chipper
The photos are of a 1927 or 1928 Chevrolet 1 ton truck. Given the 1928 engine number it is more likely a 1928 than an earlier year.

I know what the photo looks like, but in 1928 there was no 4cyl with 224cui and 37hp, it was only available from 1917-1922 on the Chevrolet 490 which had the same fenders
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Hi Chevy77

That article is "essentially" right, but very poorly written and thus has given you the wrong idea.

The 4 cylinder was produced through 1928, INCLUDING the 1928 model year produced through nearly all of 1928.

It was then replaced very late in 1928 by the 6 cylinder engine, WHICH WAS FOR THE 1929 MODEL YEAR.


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A full photo of your engine on the side opposite the carburetor, would be helpful. I'm no expert on the 4 cylinder engines, but the location of your generator does not match with what I would assume to be correct for any engine before 1926(ish). The earlier engines had a gear driven generator on the other side with the distributor, and sometimes the oil pump, driving off its back end.
Only the 1928 cylinder head had 2 exhaust ports and only the '28 engine had tin covers for the push rods.

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second picture shows a oil filter under the ignition coil, that was only used on 1927-28 motors

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@ Mike,
My engine only has one outlet, no sheet metal on the pushrods, but the alternator on the V-belt, it could also be that the Germans made one out of several engines, the carburettor was a Weber

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A few more photos for you, including the casting number, but based on your statements, I suspect that the engine is no longer original 🤔

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From the engine photos and the photos of the truck it clearly is a 1927 1 ton with a cab of unknown manufacture.


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