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Hey Guys, I am working on my 1922 touring. My problem was that the ring gear was breaking right inside where the bolts hold the ring gear together. It had broken almost half way around the ring. While driving one day it started to grind when driving so stoped and tore it apart. The ring gear was bending and breaking when driving so the pinion was only engaging half the times as it cycled around... After taking it apart i could see where it had broken there before and was welded previously. Luckily its fixable... I have the ring gear at a great machine shop getting welded up. Should be a few more days and I think he will have it fixed for me. But, while I have the rear end torn apart I was thinking about getting new leather for the rear brakes. The leather that I have on the car now is super stiff, brittle and slick. The brakes are very soft/poor even after adjusting the linkages. It's almost a rolling stop at times which is super scary... Anyone changed their leathers before? Does it need to be anything special type of leather? Where to buy it at? Any pre-made with holes punched? suggestions? All input and ideas welcomed.
Thanks Brady
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First of all, I have locked up my rear brakes in an emergency situation before so something else any right here.
Starting with the material, a woven friction material. I don’t have any actual specs but it is not leather. I had my brake bands rebranded by a commercial shop many years ago and I don’t have the material specs. I know that I looked at McMaster-Carr in the past but their material is slightly thicker which would creat another issue.
As everyone knowns, brakes are very important so good luck with the repairs.
Chris
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Sounds like you're doing some serious restoration work on your 1922 touring! Kudos for keeping the vintage spirit alive. When it comes to those leather brakes, you might want to consider getting some high-quality, pliable leather for the job. It's essential for good braking performance.
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Grease Monkey
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Sounds like you're doing some serious restoration work on your 1922 touring! Kudos for keeping the vintage spirit alive. When it comes to those leather brakes, you might want to consider getting some high-quality, pliable leather for the job. It's essential for good braking performance. You can often find the right leather at specialty stores or online shops. Look for leather that's suitable for brake lining. As for pre-made options with punched holes, that might save you some time and effort. Do some online searches or check out automotive restoration forums; fellow enthusiasts might have some great recommendations. And if you're interested in delving deeper into the world of leather, you should definitely check out the Von Baer blog. They've got some fantastic insights on all things leather-related.
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Hello 22tourer,
Getting back to your rear end repairs. There is a white metal thrust washer in the rear end that absolutely must be replaced if it has not been already. They are very brittle, and it is not a case of if they will fail but when. And when that happens the rear end will pretty well not be savable. Other searchers have found that those early rear ends are now made of "unobtanium" so you should be very careful with the one you have if you want to continue driving your car.
There was a fellow on here for awhile from Norway, or Sweden who posted the repair sequence for his car. He used a brass thrust washer designed for the model t, and modified it to fit his car.
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