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Hi.
I am about to remove the engine from my 1930 Coach. The engine has been stripped from carb, distrb, fuelpump, exhaust, gen and starter.
As per instructions in repair manuals after taking out the three fastening bolts it can be slided forwards - there is only about an inch to the
frame crossmember in front of the flywheel - and then lifted up/forward. Will the driveshaft from the gearbox be out of the engine/clutchplate
by then?

regards
Olle

1919 490s - 2, 1930 coach

No,

make sure you remove the four screws in the mushroom (u-joint housing) and slide it back down the tube a little bit or you will have trouble.

also remove the transmission shift lever (gear shift) cover and arm.

you will have to angle the engine up, and get the front bolt/stud up out of the frame and then slide it gently forward, you may have to wiggle it or rock it some to assist with getting the shaft out of the u-joint. the the torque tube will slide out of the u-joint. torque tube along with mushroom (u-joint housing) and shaft will stay in the car with the rear end, engine transmission, and u--joint will come out. there is only about an inch or so between the head and the fire wall as well, you will see that i used a piece of carboard to help protect my firewall. it is and angles up and out process. clear the oil pan and away you go.

I know this sounds crazy but you didn’t list removing your radiator. You have to pull that also plus what bearsfan said.

lol
yeah forgot that... thanks Ted :)

remove hood, remove radiator, splash pans, wires, hoses :)

Thanks for your tip. My intention was to remove only the engine and leave the gearbox in the car, but maybe taking all out is a better option.

thanks again.

olle

will take more effort to leave the gearbox in the car vs pulling it out as an assembly based on how they are connected together. not like a modern car.
it is a lot easier to line up the clutch disc, pressure plate and all with the out of the car, sure it can be done but not fun. also will need to support the gearbox some how as the gearbox is screwed to the housing which is screwed to the engine which is screwed to the frame. you remove engine and the cast housing, there is nothing to support the gearbox.

few pictures of my reassembly on my 1929 a few years ago. the cast housing is bolted to the engine from the inside of the gearbox housing. and this cast housing has the feet that bolt the driveline to the frame.

Hi again.
I will do what you did, the real reason to take out the engine is a severe oil leak, seeming to come from the rear bearing, I guess there is a sort of seal which is worn? I hope to see it when I disassemble the Oil pan.

Olle

There is no seal.

as Gene noted, there are NO seals in these engines !! 3 Main Bearings = BABBITT, as well as the 6 Connecting Rods = BABBITT, no inserts either

if you are leaking oil out of the rear of the engine, does it do so while sitting still on flat level ground and running or not running ?

The oil leak is during drive and also a while after stopping, quite much really. It is dripping from the hole in the pan under the flywheel.
i am taking the engine out on monday and will obviously know then where the leak is.
Thanks for the info about the no seal.

Olle

that sounds like the oil drain back in the rear main bearing is clogged. if it is engine oil coming out that cover in the transmission

there is a drain back in the rear main, usually a ball that allows oil to drain out of the slinger back in the pan, if the ball is stuck or port is clogged, then the oil typically will weep past the slinger and out the back then drip off the crankshaft and out that hole.

many discussion on here about this issue and how to fix it.

Oil leak between engine and bellhouse

rear main ball

Thanks again for info.

Olle

Me again, Olle.
The engine is on its way out, the two rear bolts are off BUT i can not figure out how to get the front bolt out. The nut is removed but I can not see how to get the bolt out from underneath the cam gear cover.

Olle

The front bolt is welded to the front engine support. You have to lift the front of the engine high enough for it to clear the front cross member.

agree with Chipper , the front bolt/stud does not come out.

as noted in my earlier posting:


Do you have the 1930 Chevrolet Repair Manual ?? if not I would highly recommend it, it goes through how to remove, replace, and do general overhaul of the drivetrain. clearances, setting, etc. many which are critical to the survival and running of these engines :)

pict of inside the front cover where the bolt/stud is located. this is on my 1930

The engine is out and on the bench. I have two manuals but I think there is little info about how to remove tjhe engine, especially this about the front bolt.

Thanks again guys for helping info.

Olle