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Okay, I'm crying "Uncle".  Have a leaking freeze plug in my '36 Coupe Pickup. Dropped the drive shaft Dropped the transmission Removed the pressure plate and clutch disc Removed the flywheel. All that's left is the bell housing. For the life of me I can't get it "free" from the engine block. Suggestions?? Yes, I did remove the four bolts holding it on. And I removed the motor mounts and the engine is on a jack. I've tried a hammer, a crowbar, a wheel puller and various wedges, chisel and other pry bars. Are the two pins holding it on?
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I believe there should be six bolts. Two up high INSIDE the bell.
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Yes, I did remove TWO bolts up high inside the housing. And I removed TWO bolts down low inside the housing.
Are there any on the outside??
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Dang. Thanks 68ironhead. I went outside and looked closer. Had to climb a 9' ladder to get to the top of my car hoist. Then climbed into the car and looked through the floorboards. Saw TWO MORE BOLTS which are on the "outside" top of the bell housing.
So if anybody else is following - that makes 6 total bolts holding the bell housing on. Tomorrow I will tackle this again.
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Congrats! that sounded so familiar to how I do things!
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Bill, I'm glad you found those two bolts. I was about to suggest explosives.
Mike
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Bill, I'm glad you found those two bolts. I was about to suggest explosives.
When Willys (Jeep) changed from a flathead 4 cylinder to an F head design in the early 50s, the new head did not use an intake manifold. The intake plenum was cast into the head and the carb bolted direct to the head. There was a head bolt under the carb. Many times, someone would try to remove the head without seeing the need to first remove the carb. Not knowing that there was a hidden head bolt, they would pry and beat on the head until it popped free, leaving a chunk behind, still held in place by the hidden bolt. My brother had some Jeeps for parts and did a brisk business in replacement heads.
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Ha ha. Mike, if you had recommended it YESTERDAY, I would have possibly considered it. (explosives). In the past, I've had some bell housings that were a bugger to get off due to a very tight, pressed fit. So I was thinking that this was the same.
Sometimes you have to wonder just WHAT the automotive engineers THINKING when they designed a part?? Quick analogy. I used to write Service Bulletins for a local aircraft manufacturer. Once I had to write up a replacement bulletin for a part that was located deep in the tail of the plane (757). And I needed a drawing of the installation. When I crawled into the confined space with a flashlight, I discovered that the drawing provided was made looking at the installed part 180 degrees from how it's mounted. It didn't look anything like what you see when you're trying to uninstall the item (a hydraulic pump). The bolts were at the opposite end of the mounting. Very, very confusing. Naturally I made the illustrators reverse the image before the bulletin was released. It was a good "engineering" drawing, but a LOUSY installation drawing.
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