Reproduction Parts for 1916-1964 Chevrolet Passenger Cars & 1918-1987 Chevrolet & GMC Trucks



Visit the new site at vcca.org

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
#441494 04/19/20 05:11 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,689
Likes: 21
ChatMaster - 6,000
OP Offline
ChatMaster - 6,000
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,689
Likes: 21
I see the term Concours all the time when old cars are involved. I'm not sure what it actually means in regards to old cars. I think it means rare and extremely well preserved or restored to exact factory specifications.

Trouble is I wouldn't think any old Chevrolet would ever be considered Concours quality? tend to think only of cars classified and recognized as "Classic" by Classic Car Club of America as Concur

I know we loosely through the word classic around all the time to describe our old cars, even Chevrolets. I've always thought that Classic with a capital "C" was respectfully reserved for cars recognized by CCCA. I mentioned this once in a post and I had to duck to avoid all the flack aimed at me. Which sorta tells me itI was not well received. hoodAgrin

Okay, forget about classic/Classic. Can a 33 Chevrolet be considered Concours? Can a 41? Any Chevrolet? Anyone here use the term for their old Chevrolet?

Who or what organization recognizes a car as Concours?

Someone straighten me out or just shoot me. Please!

Best,

Charlie computer

BTW: Guessing at the meaning will not result in any added value. Just as mine above doesn't. dance

BTW2: Does one have to dress up in period clothing and sip tea and eat scones in order to avoid frowns when attending a Concours event?




Join VCCA For Technical Help

VCCA members have access to a list of over 50 Technical Advisors who can help you with your car. It's worth the price of membership! While you can get a lot of information for free in this forum, sometimes the info that you REALLY need is only available from the right person. This is what "The World's Best Chevrolet Club" is all about!


JOIN THE VCCA TODAY!

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 30,701
Likes: 141
ChatMaster - 25,000
Offline
ChatMaster - 25,000
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 30,701
Likes: 141
It is just another name for a car show. When you own a $500,000 car you can't say I am taking it to a car show.


Gene Schneider
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 217
Likes: 3
Backyard Mechanic
Offline
Backyard Mechanic
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 217
Likes: 3
I have started using the term "vintage" rather than "classic" for our old cars. It seems that anything 25 years old is a classic (does a coffee maker purchased in 1994 deserve to called a "classic"?). Just sayin'
Jeff

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,620
Likes: 5
ChatMaster - 3,000
Offline
ChatMaster - 3,000
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,620
Likes: 5
As far as I'm concerned, the CCCA or whoever they are don't have the copyright on the term Classic. If the VCCA wants to refer to a section of their show field as classic, then they have every right to. Remember, the Chevrolet Classic Six was around long before the CCCA. Maybe it's us that determines what the term Classic refers to...


Those accustomed to the finest...find it in Chevrolet.
1953 Belair Convertible
1951 2dr Deluxe Sedan
2015 GMC SLE 4X4
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,689
Likes: 21
ChatMaster - 6,000
OP Offline
ChatMaster - 6,000
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,689
Likes: 21
Bruc,

I think, for me, it is merely a show of respect for the CCCA. Nothing more.

I would think the members of CCCA have a right to cringe when they see a lesser car, that's not recognized by their club, referred to as a either Classic or classic. I can understand their feelings.

No one has to do as I do. Not even my missus. luv2

Best, and I do understand you point of view.

Charlie computer

BTW: I enjoyed the pictures of the birthday celebration. What a sweet little girl! luv2

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,620
Likes: 5
ChatMaster - 3,000
Offline
ChatMaster - 3,000
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,620
Likes: 5
Thanks Charlie! It was an awesome party...even though the guests didn't lift a finger to help out at all! I think the giraffe drank a little too much too.

Attached Images
93721147_10163263377075231_8102408000917995520_o.jpg
Last edited by brewster; 04/20/20 12:31 PM.

Those accustomed to the finest...find it in Chevrolet.
1953 Belair Convertible
1951 2dr Deluxe Sedan
2015 GMC SLE 4X4
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 79
Shade Tree Mechanic
Offline
Shade Tree Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 79
When I want to know what a word means I go to the dictionary. My dictionary does not include the word concours, but mentions it in discussing the word concourse indicating that it is an archaic word, Middle English, meaning an assembly. Google defines it as "an exhibition or contest, especially a parade of vintage or classic motor vehicles in which prizes are awarded for those in the best original condition." As I type this, the editor in my word processor is underlining in red the word concours telling me that it is either not a word or is misspelled.

I have been to a number of Concours. I have found them to be high class car shows of high class cars that were invited to be exhibited. The kinds of cars that are included is up to the sponsors of the concours and may vary from year to year. Chevrolets are sometimes included. A good friend of mine has exhibited his restored 1954 Chevy pickup at several concours. A few years ago it was best in its class and he won a bottle of very expensive bourbon.

Years ago there were only a handful of concours; today there seem to be zillions of them. The better ones charge a pretty penny for folks to look at the cars. You ought to look into showing your '41 convertible at the Amelia Island Concours next March.

By the way, classic means "of the first or highest class or rank; serving as a standard, model or guide;' or 'of enduring quality, interest or style." And Vintage means "being dated, old-fashioned or of some antiquity". When I joined the VCCA, the form I filled out to join stated that "The Vintage Chevrolet Club of America is a nonprofit organization dedicated to the preservation of vintage Chevrolets." That was changed some years ago. Now it is just any Chevrolet or GMC, even last year's model. Vintage has nothing to do with anything.

Last edited by bobl; 04/20/20 11:24 PM. Reason: corrected typo
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 656
Likes: 3
Oil Can Mechanic
Offline
Oil Can Mechanic
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 656
Likes: 3
Concours and concourse are not the same thing, although they are easy to confuse. One being a French borrowed word for a vehicle show, the other being a large centrally located room, such as in an airport or hotel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concours_d%27Elegance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concourse

bobl #441570 04/21/20 10:54 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,689
Likes: 21
ChatMaster - 6,000
OP Offline
ChatMaster - 6,000
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,689
Likes: 21
Bobi,

Thanks for looking all that up for me. Why should I go to all the trouble whey I can simply plead ignorance and let someone else do it. Agrin

Your post shed a lot of light on the subject. It was interesting reading.

Owing to the spelling of Concurs I would have guess it has French origins.

Thanks again for a explanation from an obviously educated man. (I mean that in the best way it can be interpreted.) dance

Best,

Charlie computer

Last edited by 41specialdeluxe; 04/21/20 10:56 AM.
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 79
Shade Tree Mechanic
Offline
Shade Tree Mechanic
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 79
Incidentally, seventy or eighty years ago, when my mother was interested in collecting antiques, things had to be at least 100 years old to be an antique. Some years later the Smithsonian Institute decreed that things fifty year old were antiques. Still more recently, car clubs and state D.O.T.s decided that vehicles that were 25 years old were antiques. Shows how definitions change with time. A 1995 car is now an antique. B.S.!

Bob L

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,511
Likes: 48
ChatMaster - 3,000
Offline
ChatMaster - 3,000
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,511
Likes: 48
You know the meaning of Concours has changed when they welcome Lurch to their events with open arms!

I really enjoy crashing these parties!!

;-) Dean


Dean 'Rustoholic' Meltz
old and ugly is beautiful!



Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1
Grease Monkey
Offline
Grease Monkey
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 1
Haha, I didn't think about it but sounds exciting. Chevrolet is an old topic in the car world. Maybe some true fans would appreciate it. I mean now are more interesting models like Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW and models like this. Everyone nowadays loves good-looking cars which have speed. Also, I saw that many cars are pretty expensive, so many people are buying used cars. If one of you is planning to get a used car, this article will help you https://wealthtender.com/insights/money-management/questions-to-ask-when-buying-a-used-car/


Link Copied to Clipboard
 

Notice: Any comments posted herein do not necessarily reflect the official position of the VCCA.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5