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Does someone know the part number for the small paper filter that fits inside the bowl on a 419 or 421 AC fuel pump?

"Does someone know the part number for the small paper filter that fits inside the bowl on a 419 or 421 AC fuel pump?"

Yes, and also the part number for the 1935-40 Ford fuel pump diaphragm that is a perfect fit in your fuel pump. Ford parts vendors offer just the diaphragm so you don't have the buy a whole "Kit" to get the one part you need. If you give me your email address I'll send you that info and photos too.

Ray W

Lilhemiram@yahoo.com
Thanks,
Wes

Can you post this info on here as well please as many of us would like to have this for reference.
Thanks

"Can you post this info on here as well please as many of us would like to have this for reference.
Thanks"

I'm not allowed to do that Tim. As you can see from the quote below from a current thread one must be a VCCA member to contribute a photo here. I know that a bizarre twist on the concept of information sharing but you'd have to take it up with the geniuses who make up and enforce the rules. On one other occasion a forum member asked me to post a photo of something I'd built for my restored '36 Chevy PU and a VCCA official told me I'm a "freeloader" for trying to post what the other forum member wanted without paying VCCA dues. Oh well, I figure that's their loss.

If you're a member of the Stovebolt forum I can post the photos for you there.

I wish there were a forum for people whose restored antiques are driven regularly, not trailer queens, and who bring street rod builder fabrication skills to restoration. We could share information on improving the safety, comfort and drivability of our restored antiques while maintaining an unmolested original appearance. An example is this on my 3.55 rear gear conversion:

https://vccachat.org/ubbthreads.php/topics/334876/1936-chevy-3-55-rear-gear-conversion.html

Notice that I didn't (couldn't) post it because it has photos so a VCCA member who found it interesting posted it. If I were trying to use this forum as bait for joining VCCA I would figure that juicy how-to articles would help but others obviously disagree as Tony states:


"Sounds like good idea.
To post photos direct to Chat you need to be a VCCA member, otherwise post your pics on a hosting site and post the link here on chatter.
Tony

1938 1/2 ton Hope to drive it before I retire"

It escapes me completely why people are unwilling to spend 11 cents a day to join a club that covers the vehicles in which they are interested.

I believe the filling station sells the FS-235. Check out their site and see if it would fit your pumps. I have bought them locally but can't remember the part number.

Dave

“It escapes me completely why people are unwilling to spend 11 cents a day to join a club that covers the vehicles in which they are interested.”

Gachap,

I can explain that speaking only for myself. Others may have different reasons. I grew up in the 1950s in the epicenter of the Southern California culture. As a little kid I saw my neighbors doing welding, machining, all kinds of auto repair, engine swapping, street rod building, vehicle restoration and race car building. In fact, right across the street from my elementary school was a fabrication shop where race cars, including the old school Indy “roadsters” were being built for competition at “The Brickyard”. That was really exciting for a little boy to watch.

So I aspired as a kid to learn a lot of those skills and had some success, thanks to friends, neighbors and evening adult education teachers sharing their knowledge. My present quest in the car hobby is meeting others who share that view of what the car hobby is about. There are a few of them out there, but just a few.

Information about vendors of parts from China, places to take a vehicle to have all kinds of “professional” services done, motels and restaurants related to touring is irrelevant to me. So if something is irrelevant why buy it?

I will say that when I started my ’36 Chevy PU restoration project in the early 1970s there was no internet, ebay, etc. Parts were acquired and disposed of at swap meets and in the G & D ads. In those days I joined VCCA and remained a member for over 40 years. While I was doing that restoration nearly 50 years ago G & D was very useful in finding parts and swap meets. I tried a few local Regions but their activities were sitting around looking at old movies or going on very short “tours” to local restaurants. To me any road worthy restored vehicle is capable of doing way more than that. I’ve driven my restored ’36 many thousands of miles, always alone with just my wife because no other owners of restored Chevys are willing to go on a drive of 50 to 100 miles or more and they definitely won’t go where there is no cell phone service.

The last time I got any benefit from my VCCA membership was in the mid 1980s when I found some long sought after bumper guards for my ’36 in G & D. Finally in 2009 I stopped renewing my membership that I had mindlessly renewed for a long time just out of habit. I simply wasn’t getting anything for my money.

Again, I speak only for myself in answering your question.

wesb see this thread, Bearsfan has some part numbers.

https://vccachat.org/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/331513/Searchpage/1/Main/51689/Words/%2Bgf+%2B124/Search/true/re-anyone-running-2-fuel-filters.html#Post331513

Thanks. Pictures are not needed to post the information.

Brino, thank you for the response. I was an AACA member for more than 40 years and dropped it for similar reasons. That was almost 20 years ago and I haven't missed it. But at my age I enjoy reading about and seeing old Chevies and I have received quite a bit of help on this forum with various questions and problems with my 1931 Sport Coupe. I feel that being a member of the club helps support this operation.

Brino, thank you for the response. I was an AACA member for more than 40 years and dropped it for similar reasons. That was almost 20 years ago and I haven't missed it. But at my age I enjoy reading about and seeing old Chevies and I have received quite a bit of help on this forum with various questions and problems with my 1931 Sport Coupe. I feel that being a member of the club helps support this operation.

Good morning gchap.

I’m glad my response didn’t offend you. Some of these VCCA guys are very thin skinned. I have contacted the local chapter of AACA and found them very friendly and welcoming. They invited me to join them in their monthly activity. But what is their monthly activity? It’s no different than the VCCA chapters I have “test driven”. They meet at a pizza restaurant and have dinner.

To me sitting in a restaurant or sitting in a lawn chair all day at a show is not what the car hobby is about.

Once at least 10 years ago I was looking for something on Craigslist and came across an announcement for a “Northern California 150 mile street rod reliability run” limited to 1940 and earlier vehicles. My wife and I participated in it and had a really great time. It really was 150 miles of back country roads that took nearly all day. There was a quick lunch stop but the emphasis was definitely on driving.

I can’t find pictures of the run I participated in but here are pictures of the same event in other years:

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ifornia-roadster-reliability-run.721486/

http://www.roaddevils.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=903

So, the quest continues for finding restoration guys/ladies who have enough confidence in their vehicles to do what those street rod people do. It seems to me that a good restoration makes a vehicle like new and capable of anything. In 1976 I drove my home restored ’36 PU from Southern California to the VCCA National Meet in Colorado Springs, went on the Pikes Peak Summit and Cripple Creek “Tours” then drove back to So. Cal., total mileage about 2500 miles. Forty plus years later it’s still eager for a drive and gets one at least a couple of times a month. Anyone who wonders if a “driver” cleans up well enough to show can check the 1976 National Meet show results in Class T-2 (1929-36 commercial vehicles).

Ray W

This thread is drifting away from the subject "Fuel filter for 30s". Please set it back on line so we can go forward on track.

"This thread is drifting away from the subject "Fuel filter for 30s"."

RAY,

You're right.

I was able to help the original poster, Wes, with information and photographs on 2 genuine AC , made in USA OEM filter element part numbers that somehow are a perfect fit in his 1935 fuel pump bowl and also a Ford fuel pump diaphragm for that same fuel pump. Now he won't have to buy any made in China junk or buy a whole "kit" just to get a diaphragm.

Ray W

I took my pumps and filters out and it is AC GF149 that fits the AC 421 pump as well as many others with the small bowl. I had trouble with my old nos AC made in Flint filters coming apart, maybe improper storage or the new fuel, don't know. The filter separated from the hard paper top. I have been using Wix part number 33039 and they have been fine.

Dave

If the filter has glued paper then it has a shelf life. The glue will eventually fail. NOS might be nice for display but if it's really old new is better in this case.