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If anyone is on now, the new owner of my former 34 master is stuck at the Canada border because they can't find the vin # and won't allow the car in. It's not on the tag that shows the body, trim and paint info on the firewall. Please call Bob 732-241-5065 thanks

There was no "VIN" number used in 1934. It was a "Car Serial Number". The Car Serial Number is stamped on a small metal plate that is attached to the wood main sill under the floor mat, passenger side, facing the passenger side front door. The plate is sometimes missing since it was attached with small nails. The title may have the Car Serial Number listed or the title most likely has the engine serial number listed instead. If the Car Serial Number plate is missing then that was the only car serial number on the vehicle other than the engine serial number which is totally different.

Since you were the previous owner of the vehicle it is surprising that you didn't know the location of the Car Serial Number plate.

would the engine serial # be all numbers, I recall the title having the # starting 34 DA. Everything is in boxes in the trailer with the car, but the tag is no longer on the passenger side sill, just the 4 small holes. Thanks, bob

The engine serial number is all numbers. However, the Car Serial Number would start with one or two numbers (factory), then two letters which is the series (DA) then two more numbers (the month of manufacture) then four or five numbers which would be the number of the run for that vehicle in the specific factory in which the car was manufactured.

The engin number for a 1934 Master would range from 3964078 to 4708994. May begin with a "K" Most states used the enginenumber for registartion prior to 1955. The engine number is stamped into a raised pad next to the fuel pump.
The serail number would being with one or two numbers followed by DA and then more numbers.

I believe that is the number on the title. As that is with the car now, I'll get up with the owner after his blood pressure drops about 50 points.I just talked to him, he had to unload the car, they put it on a lift and a supervisor made the call that it was an original vehicle. And that it was not assembled from parts from various cars and it's now on a Canadian highway headed for Ontario. Thanks for the help again, Bob

Glad to hear the problem is solved. Crossing the border or returning from Canada can be interesting. When returning from the Six Cyl Tour in London Ontario I spent a half hour trying to convince the inspectors that an ANTIQUE plate from N.H. was not the same as a regular registration. Another time on a camping trip with the family we spent a couple of hours being detained as they emptied and searched my vehicle. The did repack it nicely and when I asked why the detention they advised the "COMPUTER' kicked out my registration number as being wanted for drug smuggling. The problem was though that the number in question was for an ocean going ship!!

Gene, The Title has a Number 43 52134 does this look like an engine serial number, it's not mine anymore, just trying to help out the new owner. Had NJ been more diligent this would have been corrected in 1985. and this problem would not have occurred . I feel responsible for this occurrence, I wanted this to be a smooth transition for the new owner, Thanks , Bob

Yes, that is the engine number and would have/should have appeared on the title as being the serial number.

Thanks, Gene. I'll let him know,this should be a big help to him when he goes for his Canadian registration Also thanks to the members that took the time to call me, it was a big help In my conversation with the border authorities and to the new owner.