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I just found a PDF in my files showing production numbers, model#'s, serial#'s and other data on Canadian models 1915-1951.

I shared some data with David Hayward years ago and he provided me this PDF database he had compiled.

I assume others have this info as well but want to make sure it is made available as David wanted this information available to help others.

Where should this PDF be posted? Maybe it is somewhere already?

Thanks
Tim

I would hope that BB would make sure it is available on the club website.

There are around 160 pages of info here.

It covers Canadian models, Export models to UK and Australia as well as Denmark built models and Holden bodied models.
It shows serial and productions #'s for RH vs LH steering models.
Commercial and military vehicles as well.
A lot of cool info here.

Hi I have a Canadian export RHD Australian market 1936 Sloper two door Coupe bodied by Holden, I am trying to cross reference chassis and engine numbers, please can you either send me the PDF list or a link to it.

Many thanks

David

The 1936 Canadian engine numbers ranged from 5224056-5226400 and 5558401-5599200 and 6410801-6414790.
The serial numbers were in the 612190001 range depending on body type (not Holden) (an example)
The Canadian cars had a plate riveted to the firewall with all the required numbers.

I think you will find that if it has the "Holden" tag on it a lot of the body was pressed here in Aus though the engine and chassis may well have come here out of Canada. The US didnt stamp the chassis that early but Aus did, generally just behind where the LHD steering box would be. As Gene suggested there often is a plate on the left of the firewall with most of the numbers for identification, I have been told there was a fire in the GM-H records dept in mid 1950's so it is now difficult to get historical records though I believe some have survived.
Tony

Tim
Have you heard anymore about the pdf file and where it has been posted???
Tony

I believe David Hayward's database file is on the "Maple Leaf Up" website but you may have to register to get access to it: http://www.mapleleafup.net

If you have the VIN for a Canadian built GM vehicle you can get details from GM Canada Vintage Vehicle Services: http://vintagevehicleservices.com/options.html

Pete

Sent you an email Tony.

Thanks Tim
I have replied and had a brief look at the links, I understand that they represent what was shipped out of Canada though I didnt see a breakdown of Assembled, CKD and bare running gear not that it matters. I believe mine was a light truck rolling running gear and Aus pressed body.
Tony

There appears to be other versions of these documents put together by David Hayward out there besides the ones I have, some of which may be more current or covering different models.

The Canadian data is a bit more difficult to find than US data, likely due to the heavy exports to other Commonwealth countries and the pieces/parts and whole cars we imported from the USA and then riveted Canadian data tags on. I often wonder if some of those production numbers ended up in Canada data or US data or even both? Production was much lower in Canada than the US - for example only 220 of my Coupes were built in 1938 and these were split between 2 plants so pretty easy for a records error, say in the Regina plant to wipe out the 20 units built there. David pieced it together from various sources, trying to build one large record. Sadly, I suspect he had more in his head before he passed that was not documented.

There was a fire in the 80s that destroyed some of the older GM Canada records.There is likely still data out there belonging to owners who had been provided detailed information packages from GM Canada before this fire. David had been trying to find owners out there with this data. His theory was that if you had a 1938 truck with data XYZ on the build tag, that you could find others with DOCUMENTED info on either X, Y, or Z and piece it together and then record it in one big document.

I believe Mike Lynch has some detailed 30's Canadian data but not sure if it extends much beyond his 1935 models. He has a close friend in Vintage Services that has been there for decades. Maybe he will add a comment or try sending him a PM.

I think by keeping this topic alive more of this data will appear over time.