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I am trying to find out if anyone has a the passenger side tail light bracket for the 1/2 ton truck. I have a drawing for one but would like to get a photo of one. I know someone who may attempt to have a limited run of them using a water jet, so we want to be as accurate as possible. They are going to go on a 1936 GMC, but I believe the brackets are the same.
Thanks

Pat,
Do you think the bracket is the same even though your lamp is round as opposed the oval lamp on Chevys? The oval lamp mounts with 2 vertical studs. There is hump with an open center on the bracket to allow room for the wire terminals to be attached to the lamp. There was also a clip, attached to the top stud, which had keyhole shaped slot to retain the protective conduit for the tail and stop lamp wires. I reproduce this clip and the conduits for Carter, The Filling Station and Classy Chevy parts.
While some are being offered by Jim Carter and others, I have never seen evidence that Chevrolet ever produced a right side bracket for the trucks.

Mike

I agree with Mike. Although Chevy didn't make the right side bracket.....GMC/Pontiac may have.

I am curious to find out what the GMC part # { or RPO # } is on the right hand bracket & lamp for the '36 GMC.

Without the GM part # to back it up, there is no proof that that bracket was ever offered to begin with.


Judging by the configuration of the driver side bracket.... A right side bracket could easily be fabricated using a mirror image of the left side bracket {minus the provision for a license plate}.

If you do end up making the brackets..... I have a pile of the original & NOS Guide R-13 tail lamp assemblies for them .
{some without the clear license plate lens to be used a right rear lamps}




J.C. did an article on the rear '36 GMC lamps & brackets but mentioned nothing at all about there ever being a right hand bracket.

http://oldchevytrucks.com/blog/index.php/tag/1936/


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Mike, my driverside bracket has four holes, two vertical and two horizontal, so either the Chevy lamp or the Guide 13 on the GMC will mount, I can send you a picture on the conduit attaches to my bracket. I will check out your conduit on the Filling Station site. MT, the only place I have seen the passenger side light mentioned is in a 1936 sales brochure, listed as an option.. I have a single bulb Guide 13. I will see if I can track down a number, my parts book lists two diverside for the T-14, one standard and one for pickup and panel body.
Thanks for the info.

Pat,
I hope this link works. http://oldchevytrucks.com/blog/index.php/2015/07/1936-chevrolet-low-cab-12-ton/ It is an unrestored '36 Chevy pickup on Jim Carter's site. There is a photo of the tail lamp bracket (wrong lamp). As you can see, the vertical strap portion of the bracket is not wide enough for horizontal holes on this bracket.
It's cool that you have a sales piece that mentions a RH bracket for GMC. Neither my 1936 Master Parts Catalog or my 1936 Gold Book mentions a RH lamp / bracket for any truck. I also have an original 1935 Chevrolet Accessory catalog. It has a section for truck accessories and again, no mention of a RH lamp.
I made a RH mount for my 1936 1-1/2 ton truck using some original parts from a damaged LH bracket. The RH items being offered by Carter and others, while practical and entirely appropriate, are in my opinion, fantasy items , and not copies of anything produced by Chevrolet.
I don't know when a RH setup was first offered for pickups. I have a NOS accessory RH unit for AD trucks. As I recall, it includes a variety of brackets to cover every truck size and shape. None of them seem to mirror the LH bracket, with the possible exception of the cab and chassis bracket. The unit is complete with original box and instructions.

Mike

It sounds like there never was a R/H bracket made for the GMC's.

I agree with Mike that the r/h lamp is desirable, but it may be {as he called it }.... a fantasy item.

As long as you are going to attempt to make the bracket..... You might as well dream up a bracket to accept a back up lamp also.

You can use the matching Guide R-13 lamp with a clear lens for the back up lamp.

Pat (gunfire) says he has a sales piece, for GMC, that mentions a RH bracket for '36.

MIke

It wouldn't be the first time that GM "mentioned" an accessory in one of their sales brochures but never actually made or offered the part.


A perfect example of this is the 1953 truck accessories brochure that depicts an accessory hood ornament that looks like a horse head.

Although depicted in the literature..... GM never actually made or offered the ornament.

All I have ever seen is an artists rendition of it.


http://www.jimcartertruckparts.com/Articles/1953-Accessory-Ornament.php
















The fact that Dunfire {who is the tech advisor for that year & make of truck}
can provide No images, No RPO #, and No GM part # for the 1936 GMC r/h taillight assembly, leads me to believe that it was never actually made.

Mike, was your frame drilled for right side bracket and conduit? MT, you probably are right about the light being mentioned in sales information and nothing becomes of it. Actually, I am not considering adding a passenger side light to my truck at the moment but I have friend in CA who is restoring a 36 GMC and was inquiring about it. Basically we are using the drivers side as a model and removing the license plate portion.
Thanks for all of your info. If I come up with any new info, I will pass it along.

Pat,
Yes my frame was punched for the bracket on the passenger side. The frame would have been used for export trucks that were being sent to places where they had RH steering.
This is my truck pictured in a completed Jim Carter eBay auction. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-1935-1936-1937-1938-1939-Chevrolet-Truck-Taillight-Loom-Kit-SHOW-QUALITY/152898873902?hash=item23997baa2e:g:FX4AAOSwt5hYd9d2
I mentioned in an earlier post the there was no mention of a RH lamp bracket for trucks in my parts book. It is not technically true. There are RH brackets WITH LICENSE HOLDERS specified for RHD trucks. No listing, however, for an add on accessory RH lamp.
How did the bracket on the unrestored Chevy compare to your GMC bracket?

Mike

Mike, I took some pictures yesterday of my bracket and how the conduit attaches, I will email them to you. My bracket is completely different than the one in the Jim Carter article

How similar would 37/38 tail light brackets be to a 36,I got both brackets for my 37 and are reproductions. 37s came with only one too.

Jeff, I can only comment on the GMC brackets, according to my parts manuals the 36 and the 37 are identical. Also there are different brackets if you had the rear bumper assembly.

Jeff,
'34 - '36 brackets are the same for Chevys. "37 - '39 brackets are the same for Chevys. The earlier bracket uses a simple straight bracket from the stake pocket. Check out the link in my earlier post. It will take you to some photos of an unrestored '36.

Mike