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I do not know how to decipher the following numbers that appear on my car and was wondering if you could help me out. The tag on the door reads: F58N140940 The tag under the hood reads: Style 58 - 1893 Body No. S2115 Trim - 828-NOR Paint - 982D - OA - PAD Body by Fisher Thank you in advance, D.Romeo
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F58=1958 Bel Air series 8 cyl.
N=assembly plant - Norwood,Ohio
14940=production sequence of that plant-the 140940th Bel Ait assembeled at that plant.
Style 58-year -1893 Nomad wagon
body #s2115--The 2115 body of that style made at the StLouis,Mo. plant
Paint -982D-Snowcrest white and silver blue
Trim 828=Medium blue cloth -med. blue vinyl interior
NOR=???
I am sure som one will fill in what I missed.
Gene Schneider
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Only one correction: The number 140940 after the N in the VIN does not mean it's the 140,940th Belair built at Norwood. The first serial number was 100001, and they apply to ALL full size cars in the order they were built. Therefore, the wagon in question was the 40,940th Full Size Chevy built at Norwood in the '58 model year.
You might also want to recheck the "S" before the body number. That would normally indicate the Fisher plant was St. Louis. Now, St. Louis would not have made the body and shipped it to the Norwood Chevrolet assembly plant. The Cleveland and Lansing body plants did that with station wagons and convertibles, but not St. Louis.
If the body tag does read "S", then that wagon was not originally built with that VIN tag or that body tag....................!
Verne
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Verne,
What does the D indicate after the paint number?I see a C-D and E listed.Also what is with the PAD -padded dash and th OA--air suspension??
Another 1958 question;
I am under the impression that all single color Bel Airs had a painted insert (matching interior color usually).Only the two tone cars had the ribbed aluminum.I had a two year old 1958 Bel Air with the painted insert and remember others.Paint descriptions in my dealer album and parts book agree with this.
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Gene, As for the D and other letters with the paint codes, the meanings vary plant to plant and over the years. At some plants, an A simply means it's a solid color. As for the ones coded as this '58, from looking at a bunch of them, I believe they correspond to body styles. I think they have something to do with amount of paint, masking and/or labor required for that style. It seems the more complicated the body style or the more labor intensive (costly) it is to paint, the higher the letter. The D on a 2-tone wagon is an example. I'm not completely sure on this, but it's what seems to make sense when I look at what I've compiled so far.
I can't comment on the ACC codes. As for the side molding insert color, I thought they were always white, except on a white car. I may be wrong. I haven't focused on the '58s as much as the later years.
Verne.
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I wish I knew what Euclid aka Cleveland Fisher Body Plant code was in 1958..it was 'EP' in 1959.
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My 1957 info. lists the Cleveland body plant as CL.....doubt it would have changed by 1959. There is no E or EP letters listed.
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Gene, The Cleveland (or later called Eucild) Fisher body plant was coded CL on '58 trim tags, and EP from '59-'64. Verne
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Verne, Thanks,then it did change.Will make a note of it as my 1958 and up info. has some holes in it.
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Thanks Verne! I have seen data off several 1959 and 1960 El Caminos and they had the 'EP' code, although the trucks were assembled elsewhere. Also a '61 Parkwood 9-passenger Wagon, ex-Tarrytown exported lhd to Australia and then converted by the dealer-importer.
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Verne & David - Remember, there were two Cleveland Fisher Body Assembly Plants.
I always thought that it was the Fisher Body Plant, E. 140th and Coit Road, in Cleveland that used the CL plant code. It was this Coit Road Cleveland plant that was used to build the low production bodies like the 1928 Chevrolet Convertible [blank plant code] and the 55-57 Nomad [plant code CL]. It was a metal fabrication plant when closed in August 1983.
The Fisher Body Euclid Plant, 20001 Eucld Avenue, Cleveland, Ohio, was acquired [ex…built 1943 aircraft landing gear plant] in 1947 to build bodies for Chevrolet, BOP, and E bodies (Toronado). Body Plant Code was EUC and EP 1958-1964. Body production moved to modern Michigan plants in 1971, and Euclid plant made interior trim and upholstery. Renamed Inland Division of GM after Fisher Body Div closed in 1984. Plant closed in summer of 1993. KenK
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Cheers Ken. I wonder what the code was for Fisher Engineering, Detroit? You know, the building behind the GM Building.
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