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I do not understand how an HPOCF Vehicle can receive a Best of Show Award when the HPOCF vehicles are not Point Judged. As I understand it these vehicles are Certified.
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I don't understand why you continue to have a problem with this. It is the best appearing of those vehicles that qualify in all four areas. It is determined by the meet judging officials and solely THEIR OPINION. Same process as the other Best of Show awards. Only use the points on judged vehicles as a guide as different team point deductions are not 100% equivalent.
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I just think it should be Judges Choice not Best of Class. Call it what it is.
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I think they do call it what it is "Best of Show, HPOCF" as determined by the judging leaders. Guess you prefer an alternate description. "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"
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Maybe I can help by offering this opinion. Although these cars are not judged on a point scale, they are evaluated by a percentage of each area that is still original. So let's say one car is a good 80% original in all four areas but another car is 95% original in all four areas. That car is clearly "better" than the 80% car. There is also a consideration for condition. The 95% car may have been neglected and is rusty and/or dirty and clearly in need of help, where the 80% car is very nicely preserved in its 80% areas. Wouldn't that car now be "better" than the 95% car? There is also a consideration for the year of the car. An unrestored 1940 Chevy in exactly the same condition as an unrestored 1970 Chevy is certainly due higher recognition than the '70 model. It is clearly a subjective judgment by the judges but the car speaks for itself. The judges should be given the same credibility to determine a Best of Show in HPOCF as they are due when judging by a score sheet.
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Thank you Vern. That is the best explanation I have seen. I appreciate your time.
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I personally feel that we need to divide the HPOCF BOS and BOTB (Best of the Best) awards in half. There is a big difference between a 1940 and a 1980 HPOCF vehicle. To put them in the same category is not a wise decision. I believe we need to take a look at this idea. Where do you draw the line? 1912-54? 1954-199? This is where the discussion will get fun.
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Steve, I disagree with putting a concrete barrier between two sections of the HPOCF Best of the Best award. IF (and that is a BIG IF) the group that selects the Best of the Best awards is qualified (has knowledge, experience and rational thinking) they will serious consider all factors. Those include not only the natural deterioration that occurs with time but also that car collecting and original preservation was not popular until well after WWII. In the 60s there were more folks that considered preservation when some vehicles were purchased. And the technology to protect and preserve dramatically improved. Back in the day vehicles were for transportation. Now they are not only transportation but also for image.
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There are also lots of folks that view them as financial investments.
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There are also lots of folks that view them as financial investments. Then they are not good investors, I know if I used the money that I had spent on these old cars to buy General Electric, I would have a lot more money then then cars would ever be worth
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I certainly agree. That being said there are some who make lots of $$$ investing in "certain" cars that do indeed go up in value unlike buying a modern one which will only go down.
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