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Hi all
Those wheels on that parts car look like they are Ford wheel ??


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Originally Posted by cabboy
Hi,
Got a chance to check for the wheels. I have up to six 21" 1928 wheel felloes that have spokes but no hubs. I sent you a PM.


Thank you !! I'll be getting back to you soon!! I'll see how many are beyond repair.


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Originally Posted by lachlan31
Hi all
Those wheels on that parts car look like they are Ford wheel ??


I believe you are right. The axle was bolted on and steering was connected. But the axle also has a Y- style trailing arm that was hay wired to the bell housing cross member.
Farmers will do what they can with what they have...lol


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The 28 Chevy 4 door sedan is Job number 8150 for sure, confirming previous answers on 5/15 and 5/18. The vehicle ID tag (for registration purpose) should be/ was originally placed on the right front seat lower wood support facing the right front door. The numbers inside the front seat lower wood might also have the Job number, I'd have to go and look at the old wood for my 28 to be sure.

I'm in process of finishing up interior trim and then final assembly of restoring my own 28 4-door sedan. Started in 2010.

Here's a link to a lengthy document called "CHEVROLET U.S. AND CANADIAN PRODUCTION FIGURES 1912 to 1931" that I found only yesterday:
http://www.gregwapling.com/hotrod/chevrolet/1912-30chevroletproduction.pdf

The various 1928 models are listed on page 40.

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Well thanks very much!! I do have the plate from the seat but there was no body number. Our parts car does have one and it does say 8150 and is also Canadian so I'll just use that one. Congrats on getting that far on your car , would love to see some progress pics if you got any..
I'll also check out that link , never too much info!!


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What is wrong with yours? If the wood has rotted, split, or the peg that locates the spoke in the felloe has broken then new spokes are needed. (But I have seen broken pegs drilled and replaced but not something I would advise because of possible weakening).
The timber used originally was American Hickory and is excellent for the task. At least 90% of Chevs sold here in OZ had wood spokes (why I do not know. Discs were an expensive option). Our biggest problem is that the spokes can work very loose in our dry climate as the timber shrinks. Soaking in dams etc used to give temporary relief, and was a common enough practice apparently (if we ever had that much water!).
However the permanent cure is to shim the spokes with a .010-.020" washer (aluminium) placed over the felloe peg of each spoke before reassembling, the outer diameter being the same as the spoke diameter. The centre hole needs to be flared to follow the curved lead in to the felloe hole. Cut the hole the same size as the spoke peg and flare it by using the ball of a small ball-pein hammer, and a felloe hole as a dolly. Make sure the washer does not restrict the spoke peg entering the felloe, but supports the spoke at the filleted base of the peg.
I did this to the loose and creaking wheels of my'25 Superior K model 30 years ago and they run dead true are still rock solid.
To reassemble I inserted the pegs loosely into the felloe (number them so that they go back in exactly the same order) and left the center of the spokes (hub end) stacked up like a turkey nest. Then I placed the assembly in a workshop press and pressed the spokes down flat all at once by placing a flat board over the stacked ends. Everything creaked and groaned as we slowly pressed downwards. Then the spokes snapped into position, and only a little hammering was needed to get the spokes all perfectly flat in the centre (wooden mallet).
Because the spokes have effectively been moved towards the centre the hub may now be too tight and this can be relieved carefully with a wood rasp or better still is a flap of abrasive attached to a slot in the end of a 3/8 rod mounted in a normal electric drill. Make the flap long enough each side of the slot so as to wrap partly around the hole circumference, thereby ensuring it is always always in contact with the wood, and a remarkably round and even machining job can be abtained. Those commercial flapper wheel things tend to be savage and harder to remove material evenly all the way round the circumference. Mine were not too tight and I pressed my hubs back in without too much drama (took a few tonnes pressure though), but be sure to fully support the spokes close into the hub while doing this and lubricate the surfaces with linseed oil, soap etc. A tight fitting hub also places further force outwards through the the spokes and against the felloe.
Whilst your wheels are apart is a good time to paint the felloes, sand the spokes etc.Do not however touch the tapered mating surfaces of the spokes for these are very accurately machined and must mate perfectly.
All the above may not help you, but might help someone else with the rarer wood wheels over there. Wooden spoke wheels can quite readily be resurrected in many situations that may appear hopeless to the novice, even mixing and matching spokes from different wheels.
Good luck.

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A lot of Info! That's great !! glad you were able to fix yours. I watched a few videos and read a few books but my main problem is rot. The wood is too old and soft. And two of my fellows are rotted through the other two are beat to hell. So I have a bunch of metal work to do first but I have found a wheel wright that also builds propellers so he should be really good at it lol.


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