VCCA Home Forums TECHNICAL - 1945 AND EARLIER 1933-1936 Need help with numbers

I am helping a friend who is looking at at a 1933 Coupe to possibly purchase. It is a 5 window with a rumble seat. from I have found so far the 5 window did not come with a rumble seat so I suspect that it was added some time after the car was new. Also, It does not have a roll down back window.
The numbers are
job 33-567
body N6531
trim 26
paint 151

33-567 is the designation for a 1933 Master 5 window coupe.

N6531 means produced at Norwood, Ohio Plant Coupe Body No. 6531 for that year.

Trim No. 26 is for the interior.

Paint 151 means the color combination for this car which was Baker Blue with Tokio Ivory Pinstripe and Cream Medium or Black wire wheels.

Engine S/N should be between M-1001 and M40548

If the car serial number plate on the sill of the passenger side is still there it would yield the production month and specific number of Chevrolet produced at that plant that year. this is known as the VIN number today.

Tom

It is fairly easy to convert a 1933-1934 5 window coupe to a rumble seat coupe.
The lid is reversed, rumble seat hinges installed and some body wood trimmed out.

I believe that the rumble seat side brackets are available repo from I & I reproductions or THE FILLING STATION. The latch has to be moved to the top when the lid is spun around.

Also as one who is converting a 1935 std rumble seat roadster to NON rumble seat. You will also have to remove the bottom rain gutter completely so the lid can rotate to the open position. The side rain gutters will also have to be shortened , again so that the rumble seat can pivot to the open position .

NOTE....a 2" x 2" length of oak that goes from side to side has to be installed on the floor so that the lid can only rotate so far.........as a lid stop. Go too far and your going to put a crease in the lid.


Because your losing the bottom rain gutter and about a 1/3 of the side rain gutter your going to have to arrange the floor so that the water runs out the rear corners with holes in them as drains. Failure to get the water out will mean premature rust and rot out of the floor.

A rumble seat floor should be different than a regular non rumble floor. My 35 roadster has specific foot wells in that area ahead of the rear end. It drops down about 5-6". I had to remake mine as it looked like a swiss cheese once I got the bondo, fiberglass, tar and whatever else was covering it up.

Luckily we have enviro tech strippers here that chemically cleans the surface down to bare metal and removes everything not steel.

Re the roll down rear window. You will need the " complete" roll down mechanism from a 33-34 master to be able to update to a roll down. Been a couple of years since I have seen one offered up on here or ebay.

Also you will need a ***water trough*** to go under the rear window, it has a drain pipe on one end to get rid of the water running down rear window. The glass channel holder lynn steele rubber now makes the rubber for it, same as side windows. The window roller that keeps the glass in align in the middle, the little rubber barrel roller is also available from I & I repo

I have I believe a 1933 chev coupe master rumble seat floor section and also the rear floor section with the holes in corners. The guy I bought it off wasn't sure which year...3 or 5 window it all came out of. Its in perfect condition.

Also finding the correct rumble seat lid seat and back rest cushion springs may be difficult. Not sure if a 33 rumble seat lid has a metal inside liner or an all wood construction that's nailed thru the metal to the wood like the 34-35 std roadsters.

mike lynch

Since we talking numbers, can someone decode this information?
Job No. 33-559
Body No. K 9651
Trim No. 25
Paint No. 132

Does the trim no. indicate material and color?

I believe the car is a 4 door sedan (possibly a "town sedan"), Master series.

Trim #25 is the regular brown mohair. There was an optional flat cloth but very rare.
33559 is a 4 door sedan Master
Body number - body made at the Kansas City Fisher Body plant. Nuumber is production sequence number.
Paint # 132 is black with a gold/bronze stripe.

A Towm Sedan was a 2 door with a built-in trunk

Thank you for the information!
I thought it was originally black and I could see where the stripe was but the red primer coat was all that was left but for a few patches of black here and there.
The top had been caved in and the windows shot out with a BB gun by a college roommate. So the wood is pretty much gone and that is the first thing on the agenda. Find someone with patterns or "go bys" to make the wood. This car was his grandfathers and I have had it for 40 years in various states of disassembly. It has very decent sheet metal. Now that I'm retired, it is time to dig it out of the shop and start putting it back together.
I really appreciate your response.
John

Flathead 29:

Save all the wood for patterns that you can...even rotten peaces. The "wood" guys closely guard their patterns. I have made cardboard ones and cut new wood to replace by extending rotten parts and fitting to fit by trimming slowly down. It takes a lot of time. There are vendors that have your wood parts. These can go in easy and require little in the way of trimming to fit. Remember that these cars were "hand made". They require fitting up into place on the wooden parts and metal parts. Asking a fellow VCCA member who has your exact car for advice on your model with photo's, and info is the way to go for a do it yourselfer. Here is wishing you the best. This site has a lot of info in the "search" on the top line. It is in blue letters.