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Does anyone know how many MD (GA) and Master (GB) were produced in Janesville?
Thanks!
Tino

The First Janesville GA was 21GA-10-1001 built on 10-6-36. The last built at Janesville was 21GA-09-56920 built on 9-9-37. Total GA 55920.

The first Janesville GB was 21GB-10-1001 built on 10-7-36. The last built at Janesville was 21GB-09-39082 built on 9-9-37 . Total GB 38082.

Might you mean 12GA and 12GB?

Plant 21 is Janesville, Wisconsin. Plant 12 was Buffalo, New York

I'm going to have to mark that down to dyslexia, thanks for clearing me up.

Now that my bubble is burst, can anyone provide production numbers for Buffalo? COTF posts total production for the GAs at 56,166 (which I am pretty sure I have seen elsewhere), so if 55,920 came out of Janesville, that only leaves 246 produced elsewhere. With a number of 12GA116836 on my Deluxe, it's hard to rectify the numbers.

The first Buffalo GA had serial number 12GA-10-1001 and was built on 10-5-36. The last Buffalo GA had serial number 12GA-09-47169 and was built on 9-14-37. Total GA built at Buffalo = 46169.

The first Buffalo GB had serial number 12GB-10-1001 and was built on 10-6-36. The last Buffalo GB had serial number 12GB-09-19685 and was built on 9-14-37. Total GB built at Buffalo = 18685.

You said it is hard to rectify your numbers. I read your serial number as 12GA-11-6836 which makes it the 5836 GA built in Buffalo for the 37 model year and it was assembled in November of 1936.

@Oldie
Great!Thank you so much.
I had only little hope that someone could know this.

Tino

I follow your logic Oldie and always assumed basically the same thing (12 vs. 21 aside, that was me misreading something years ago and never giving it another thought until this string got me to thinking again).

Here is where the numbers don't add up for me: Your source says Janesville put out 55,920 GAs and Buffalo put out 46,169 GAs, for a combined output of 102,089. Unless I am reading incorrectly (readily admit this as a possibility), both COTF and Ray in Tech Talk put production of the GAs at 56,166, a number I am pretty sure I have seen elsewhere, too. Where did I go wrong?

My sorce says there were over 600,000 1937 Master Deluxe cars assembled.
56,166 business coupes, 8935 Sport Coupes, 7260 coachs, 300,332 Town Sedans, 2221 sedans and 144,110 Sport Sedans.

All body styles, or business coupe? The information I have is limited, the most detail I see is what Ray posted and it says 519,196 for the whole run in 37, but again only 56,166 for the 37 Master Deluxe business coupe. The Janesville and Buffalo totals continue to baffle.

Thanks Gene, you broke it down while I was typing. Still open, Janesville and Buffalo production numbers.

Eli said, "Still open, Janesville and Buffalo production numbers."

How So? I gave you the total GA and GB production numbers for both plants, Janesville and Buffalo. There were a lot more '37 GA and GB vehicles assembled that the totals from the two plants listed since there were an additional 8 assembly plants across the US producing GA and GB vehicles at the same time.

I am thinking what he is lookng for is how many of a certain body style were assembled at various plants,

Oldie, I've never seen production numbers by plant. Is that an online source or something you have on file? Do you have numbers for Oakland in 1941 both AH and AG? I know it was 11 months Sept thru July but have never seen exact dates or totals.

I have a bulletin dated Sept.4,1940 that list 9 assembly plants but Buffalo is not among them, others have said 41's were built there as well. Do you have any numbers for Buffalo?
Thanks, Jay

Jay,

No on line source for Chevrolet production figures that I'm aware of. The data I reference was assembled by Chevrolet Central Office personal over the years and I assume whom ever did it had a need to maintain such records since much of the early stuff was hand written and the later type written.

The first Oakland assembly plant built 1941 AG had serial number 6AG09-1001 on 9-5-40. The last Oakland 1941 AG had serial number 6AG07-36663 on 7-29-41. (35663 AG vehicles assembled at Oakland for the 1941 model year)

The first Oakland assembly plant built 1941 AH had serial number 6AH09-1001 on 9-3-40. The last Oakland built 1941 AH had serial number 6AH07-61441 on 7-29-41. (60441 AH vehicles assembled at Oakland for the 1941 model year)

Yes on the Buffalo data:

The first Buffalo assembly plant built 1941 AG vehicle had serial number 12AG09-1001 on 9-3-40. The last Buffalo built 1941 AG had serial number 12AG07-27738 on 7-30-41 ( 26738 AG's built at Buffalo for the 1941 model year).

The first Buffalo assembly plant built 1941 AH had serial number 12AH09-1001 on 9-3-40. The last Buffalo built 1941 AH had serial number 12AH07-47274 on 7-30-41. (46274 AH's built at Buffalo for the 1941 model year).

Buffalo did not build any 1942 vehicles as the plant was converted to build aircraft engines at that time for the military. I believe that the 7-30-41 date was the time that Buffalo ever built any passenger vehicles.

Oldie: "How So? I gave you the total GA and GB production numbers for both plants, Janesville and Buffalo. There were a lot more '37 GA and GB vehicles assembled that the totals from the two plants listed since there were an additional 8 assembly plants across the US producing GA and GB vehicles at the same time."

I know it sounds like I am being argumentative, but I am just confused. Gene and other sources say that the total number of GAs produced in the 37 model year from all plants was 56,166. Your numbers show that Janesville put out 55,920 GAs and Buffalo put out 46,169 GAs, for a combined output of 102,089. That's nearly 2 times Gene's total, and doesn't even account for the other plants.

Gene: "I am thinking what he is lookng for is how many of a certain body style were assembled at various plants"

Exactly so, and it would appear Oldie has a source for it, but the numbers don't work, at least for my understanding. I feel like I am simply overlooking something, I just don't know what it is.

Eli, the 56 166 number is the total of coupes only. The numbers Oldie is telling you includes all body styles. He doesn't have a breakdown of how many coupes only were built there.

The model year production for each body style is available. Also for many years the total vehicle monthly production for all models at each plant are also available. Monthly production of each body style at each plant is not available.

Note I said there were were over 600,000 Master Deluxe cars made.

Oldie, what a great resource. I've never seen this before, how did you acquire it? Are there any dates as to when it was compiled? How many years does it cover?
With 23092 fewer units built at Buffalo It confirms what I have though...All assembly plants were not equal. Previously I averaged total 41 production of 1,021,371 by the 10 plants for a per plant output of 10,213.7 Oakland at 96,104 was slightly below average and Buffalo at 73,012 well below. I would assume Flint would be the big dog. Thanks for the information I appreciate it.
Jay

Brewster: "Eli, the 56 166 number is the total of coupes only. The numbers Oldie is telling you includes all body styles. He doesn't have a breakdown of how many coupes only were built there."

The numbers would support this, but the specific reference in the email is to GA and GB, which are the coupes only.

Chipper: "The model year production for each body style is available."

Electronically, or are they only on paper somewhere? Sorry to be so tenacious.

OK, I now have to ask. We know how many 1940 cars were built, we know how many cars were built in Buffalo. Do we know how many Master Deluxe 4 door cars were built in Buffalo in April of 1940? With a Serial # 12KH0411495 I know it is a April Master Deluxe, but I can't find out how many 4 door/2 door cars were built. The Engine # B 183377 also confirms a Buffalo build, but I can't find the month of engine build.

Can anybody provide numbers of unit built by month? body style? Or are we all guessing now?

Thanks,

Eli, GA refers to any Master Deluxe, and GB is any Master. G is the code for the year. 1931 was "A", and it went up a letter every year. The second letter, A or B denotes your Master Deluxe or Master Series. Obviously the series names changed every year, but the letters denoted the upper or lower series. The body styles were not separated in the letters. Your coupe is a GA, but is included with all body styles under that code.

Jay, check your math. You missed by a decimal point. The plant average you calculated would be 102,137. Even up here in Canada where I had to convert it to metric!