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Today I stopped by to visit the member that I sold my 1934 to several years ago. He showed me the LED tail light conversion that he installed in the tail light housing. A LED panel behind the lens so it looks 100% stock from the outside until you step on the brakes. The entire lens lights up to a super bright light. I cuoldn't believe how bright they were.
He used # LED-31-36 from the Filling Station. Cost of 119.95 for two lights.
I was totally impressed.
I would like to add the same to my 1950. Unfortunatly there is no such thing sold for 1949-1950. However they do show a LED lens and while you an see the LED bulbs in the lens it would be an improvement I would think. It is F.S. # BA-11LED for $27.50 each I wonder if any one has installed these and are they really bright.
The other question is do they equire a special flasher for the turn signals.

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I put the LED 6 volt bulbs into my '50. It makes a world of difference. They plug right into the factory socket, and require no modifications. Make sure you order red bulbs, as the white ones will shine white right through the red tail light cover, they are that bright.

https://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detail/21620/Bulb_LED_Super_Bright_Red_6v_Offset_Pin_1154_Style.html

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Were they from the F.S. and did the stock flasher work?
I see they have 12V but not 6V

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I added a link, it was Chev'sof the forties.

https://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detail/21620/Bulb_LED_Super_Bright_Red_6v_Offset_Pin_1154_Style.html


They are just like replacing the bulb. No flasher required. 15 bucks each. They also look way better than the ones with the plate full of LED's. When the light is off, you can't tell it's in there.

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Thank You. Just what I was looking for.


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Tail light only, no brake...

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Gene, check the bulb # you order… I just linked to the first one I saw there. There is 1154 and 1156 bulbs.


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Yes, I looked the bulbs over in their catalog. I sold bulbs back then and am familar with the numbers. Actually Chevrolet never used the straight pin double filament bulbs as far as I can remember.
Was thinking of getting a pair of 1157 for the '57 also.

I would be lucky to have that with brake only.
I did have Halogen bulbs years back. Very little increse in lighting + several other problems.
Thanks for the information.

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rolllaugh I knew that you knew… I just didn't want you to assume that I checked before I posted the link. I didn't want to be on the hook for it if the wrong ones showed up!

I think these work better because they draw way less power...

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Originally Posted by brewster
I put the LED 6 volt bulbs into my '50. It makes a world of difference. They plug right into the factory socket, and require no modifications. Make sure you order red bulbs, as the white ones will shine white right through the red tail light cover, they are that bright.

https://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detail/21620/Bulb_LED_Super_Bright_Red_6v_Offset_Pin_1154_Style.html

I have heard, depending on the ANGLE of the socket, the LED brightness may be affected.



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They are brighter if you are directly behind them, but still way better if you are off to the side. Check the pic above, I'm not directly behind the car...


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I have the LED conversion on my 32 and was so impressed that I am going to install a R.H. light with one also. The LED bulb is good to know about also and I will plan on putting them in my 51 when I get that far.


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Originally Posted by brewster
They are brighter if you are directly behind them, but still way better if you are off to the side. Check the pic above, I'm not directly behind the car...

One '51 is 6 volt, my other '51 is 12 volt. Are those "plug and play" LED's available for both ?



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To work best the bulb must be pointed towards the lens as with a head light bulb. The bulbs are "directional" and most cars have the bulbs in this direction.
My '63 Covvair had one bulb pointed towards the lens and one side the bulb was up-right. The up-right side was done in 1961 to make more room for the spare tire storage.


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I have no problem with the LED Tail light conversions, but do you think this discussion might create another contriversey about originality like the 1960 model that was in the G & D. Ha, Ha, Ha

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Originally Posted by dandyd
I have no problem with the LED Tail light conversions, but do you think this discussion might create another contriversey about originality like the 1960 model that was in the G & D. Ha, Ha, Ha

A very good point. rolllaugh



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I may be mistaken, but I was under the impression that an alteration done for safety purposes (e.g safety belts, safety glass, more visible lighting) would not detract from a car in a judging situation.

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The bulbs would make no difference as they can not be seen.
the lenses could be another story.
Good question.
If you install sealed beams in a 1938 it would be a deduction.


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Exemptions from Point Deductions when a vehicle is being judged are:

No Point Deductions for:

Safety Glass on all pre-1937 vehicles
Seat belts in pre 1966 vehicles
Turn Signals on vehicles which did not offer them

LED tail lights would get a point deduction.

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If a safety device is mandated by a governmental authority (state, federal) then it may not be subject to point deduction during judging. There have been a few cases where special equipment has been allowed without point deduction. Those cases are at the discretion of the VCCA Judging Committee and meet Chief Judge. Those cases should be determined prior to the meet and must have official documentation displayed by the vehicle owner. It is best to make a note on the Judging Form that a waver has been granted and the documentation is available from the owner. To allow what each vehicle owner considers to be a exempt safety item would be chaotic and unfair to others.


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How about an out side mirror on a 1934 - which chevrolet did not offer?

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I would think that if you were going to go to the trouble of asking for an exemption for the mirror, then spend the day stressing over whether or not the exemption was approved, and noted during the judging process… it may be easier just to remove the mirror for the show. Same goes for the LED bulbs. I plan on getting a set for my '51 as well, but on judging days the regular bulb will be in there just in case someone really wants to be particular...

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No Point Deductions for:

Safety Glass on all pre-1937 vehicles
Seat belts in pre 1966 vehicles
Turn Signals on vehicles which did not offer them

When I was a member of the Judging Committee all of those "safety" items needed to be installed with period correct appearance. As an example: that means cloth covered wire for pre-early50s Chevrolets. If that is still the same then it should be clearly stated in any listing of exempt items.

Don't know about what has happened since I was tossed off the committee. If the exceptions are not clearly and completely stated then people can be justifiably upset if they thought they complied and had point deductions.


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I've always hated seeing cars where a beautiful restoration has been done, then the cheapest set of Canadian Tire (Walmart in the USA?) cheapie turn signals have been bolted to the bumper! At least get an attractive period looking fixture and wiring, or hide them somewhere subtle...


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Originally Posted by brewster
I put the LED 6 volt bulbs into my '50. It makes a world of difference. They plug right into the factory socket, and require no modifications. Make sure you order red bulbs, as the white ones will shine white right through the red tail light cover, they are that bright.

https://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detail/21620/Bulb_LED_Super_Bright_Red_6v_Offset_Pin_1154_Style.html

Are you satisfied with the LED, regarding brake light application? Bright enough?



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