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Hi,
the right door glass window jumped out of its glass lower sash channel. So far i removed the window and the lower sash channel from the door. The channel is rusty and its shape is more a "v" than a "u". The sash channel filler is pretty worn down.

My goal is to replace the filler and connect the glass really tied into the channel. I spent some time for research on the internet but could not find to much helpful information. Therefore I would like to ask you to answer my following questions:

1. What filler do i need. Does anyone know the shape and the thickness of the filler?
2. Is there a shop/online shop Which sells the filler? Perhaps the https://www.fillingstation.com/articles/channelreplacement.htm company?
3. How does the shape of the channel looks like?
4. And the most importend question. How can i make a tied join between glass, filler and channel?

I look forward and appreciate the slightest answer!

Thanks a lot
Best Regards
Robert

I’ll assume you are talking about item 10.687 in the attached.



You need widow setting tape. At Restoration Specialty and Supply they sell a bunch of types. I would measure but I think you need either 4516A or C but still measure before ordering. The one I bought isn’t shown as an option anymore so check the height on your channel.



The window sash is made in two parts, the window setting section and the crank section. There are 4 screws that hold the two together. You really need a good sash so if yours is rusty you should try to find a new one and you can buy only the part you need. There are guys in Portland that will probably have what you need Old car Parts (503) 771-9416 give them a call, I think they ship anywhere. To install, place the setting tape in the channel of the sash, use a couple pieces of wood and two pipe clamps to force the glass into the channel. Some people suggest a little soapy water to lubricate but I'd try it without first. Tighten the clamps slowly and watch as the glass sinks into the channel and tape

Brian

If you have the right size tape,forcing the glass into the channel dry will probably tear the tape. Soapy water is a little better, but the old time body men used boiled linseed oil. The BLO is very slippery,dries very slowly and allows you to take the glass back out if you don't get it right the first time.

I searched through my files and found out the reason Restoration Specialty didn't carry my setting tape is because they never did, I bought it from Steele Rubber. I bought that style so I could use the long edge toward the outside of the door and when the window was up it would put additional pressure on the window to keep it from rattling and might help with the sealing from the elements. It has worked fine.

Brian

Many thanks to all of you who gave me a reply. I will try the BLO.
@ Brian: Thanks again for your effort. The tape which is used in my channel dosen’t look like the tape from Steele Rubber at all. It has now lips and edges. It seems to me that the material is not even rubber more kind of textile tape. As i pointed it out it is pretty worn down. Brain, how did your original tape looked like?

I wrote the guys from >>Old car Parts<< a email about the sash channel but didn’t get any reply so far. Unfortunately I could not find any other sources. Not on ebay or any other internet page. Does someone know anyone who sells sash channels.

I am thinking also about using the original sash channel. For sure it has rust on its surface and the open sides/limbs are billowy at some spots. I am sure I can handle the billowy sides to make them straight again. Is there a clear indication that tells me that I can not use the old channel anymore?

Thanks a lot for your help!
Robert

You can get glass setting tape from "The Filling Station" 800-841-6622. They have it in 3 thicknesses. My '40 Chevy and my "48 Chevy both had original glass and used the 3/64" size. Thier part number for this size is CV-294C. It is a flat rubber material with cloth reinforcement and no lips or edges. It is extra wide. Once the glass is pressed in you just use a sharp knife or razorblade to cut off the excess.

Seeing that he is in Germany I'm sure local glass shops will have glass setting tape of various sizes. Even the heavy truck dealers may carry it and there are probably many there, possibly a Mercedes or Volvo dealer.

"The Filling Station" that I mentioned in my previous post also lists a replacement sash channel that attaches to the original brackets. Don't hold your breath about receiving a call back from Old Car Parts. I have called them 4 times in the last 3 years looking for stuff and never did get a call back.