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For the 1953, it my understanding the mounted door mirror was not a standard factory option (PN 986762). When judged this last summer, the mirror was marked as not "Authentic". I've ordered this mirror from Ecklers's, Tim Tygart's Obsolete Chevrolet Parts, and from Chevs of the 40's. All of the mirrors were the same. Any thoughts on what I may be overlooking?

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Originally Posted by Kidd59
For the 1953, it my understanding the mounted door mirror was not a standard factory option (PN 986762). When judged this last summer, the mirror was marked as not "Authentic". I've ordered this mirror from Ecklers's, Tim Tygart's Obsolete Chevrolet Parts, and from Chevs of the 40's. All of the mirrors were the same. Any thoughts on what I may be overlooking?

According to GM Heritage facts, the o/s mirror was standard on model 1508, sedan delivery. No part number was specified.

Below are the four mirrors that were available for 1953 passenger cars, as accessories.

http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/accessories/1953cadlp/53cadlp3.html




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The correct out side mirror for a 1949-1954 is not being reproduced. It clamps on the edge of the door right behind the wrap-around of the hood. The arm attaches to the center of the mirror and is not off-set. The back of the mirror head is stainless and the arm is cast and chrome plated.
To say the least they are extremely rare.
It was a dealer or owner installed accessory.

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Originally Posted by Chev Nut
The correct out side mirror for a 1949-1954 is not being reproduced. It clamps on the edge of the door right behind the wrap-around of the hood. The arm attaches to the center of the mirror and is not off-set. The back of the mirror head is stainless and the arm is cast and chrome plated.
To say the least they are extremely rare.
It was a dealer or owner installed accessory.

I found pictures of 4 different accessory mirrors in the "Useful Accessories for 1953" brochure. There is one shown that is mounted on the door in the area below the front side window track. I'm not sure whether this is an accurate picture of the mirror. If so, the base that mounts to the door is definitely different than the door mount mirror being sold by the various companies that I listed in my original post. Do you know if the accessory mirrors for '53 had the Chevy bowtie on the back side of the mirror?

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Originally Posted by Chev Nut
The correct out side mirror for a 1949-1954 is not being reproduced. It clamps on the edge of the door right behind the wrap-around of the hood. The arm attaches to the center of the mirror and is not off-set. The back of the mirror head is stainless and the arm is cast and chrome plated.
To say the least they are extremely rare.
It was a dealer or owner installed accessory.

Would that mirror be the 986641 ?



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Originally Posted by Kidd59
Originally Posted by Chev Nut
The correct out side mirror for a 1949-1954 is not being reproduced. It clamps on the edge of the door right behind the wrap-around of the hood. The arm attaches to the center of the mirror and is not off-set. The back of the mirror head is stainless and the arm is cast and chrome plated.
To say the least they are extremely rare.
It was a dealer or owner installed accessory.

I found pictures of 4 different accessory mirrors in the "Useful Accessories for 1953" brochure. There is one shown that is mounted on the door in the area below the front side window track. I'm not sure whether this is an accurate picture of the mirror. If so, the base that mounts to the door is definitely different than the door mount mirror being sold by the various companies that I listed in my original post. Do you know if the accessory mirrors for '53 had the Chevy bowtie on the back side of the mirror?

Here are pics of the 1951 mirror and positioning on the door. Look at fig. 137 and 138.

Looks like the mirror that Gene described. Again, this example is for 1951, not certain if 1953 was the same.

http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com/accessories/1951am/51aim58.htm




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The depression (rim) ON THE BACK OF THE MIRROR IS VERY SHALLOW COMPARED TO THE PICTURE.
mY '50 has the original dealer installed mirror on it.
The 1949-1953 looked the same.

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Originally Posted by Chev Nut
The depression (rim) ON THE BACK OF THE MIRROR IS VERY SHALLOW COMPARED TO THE PICTURE.
mY '50 has the original dealer installed mirror on it.
The 1949-1953 looked the same.

No "bowtie emblem" embossed on back of mirror?



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No Bow Tie....that camw later.


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In the "Chevrolet Accessories Installation Manual for 1953 Passenger Cars and Trucks", pages 66-67 figures152-153, shows diagrams of the body mount mirror (PN 986762). This also appears to have similar characteristics as Gene described, but is a body mount vs. clamp on. I'd like to find a picture of this mirror.

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Originally Posted by Kidd59
In the "Chevrolet Accessories Installation Manual for 1953 Passenger Cars and Trucks", pages 66-67 figures152-153, shows diagrams of the body mount mirror (PN 986762). This also appears to have similar characteristics as Gene described, but is a body mount vs. clamp on. I'd like to find a picture of this mirror.

Not a great view, but .......

https://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detai...r_Side_Body_Mount_With_Pad_Original.html



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That isn't the mirror I described. Looked at all of their many mirors and none duplicate the clap-on mirror. To be honest I do not remember that mirror (door mount)and I am not sure if it is correct. Also I can find a picture of that mirror installed on a car.
From 1950-1954 we installed a screw mounted aftermarket mirror made by the J W Speaker company - which would be incorrect for judging.
I can't find my 1953 dealer albumn and the mirror is not pictures in thee 1954 albumn.

If the Chevs of the '40's catalog picture is accurate it looks more like a 1955 mirror. The drawing in the accessory manual shows a much shorter base on the mounting bracket.

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Originally Posted by bobg1951chevy
The mirror shown in "Chevs of the 40s", is the same mirror that's on my car, and the same as I ordered from "Eckler's", and from "Obsolete Chevy". If you want a better picture of this mirror, I can pull one of them out of the box and snap a couple. This is the mirror that was judged as Non-Authentic.

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Originally Posted by Kidd59
Originally Posted by bobg1951chevy
The mirror shown in "Chevs of the 40s", is the same mirror that's on my car, and the same as I ordered from "Eckler's", and from "Obsolete Chevy". If you want a better picture of this mirror, I can pull one of them out of the box and snap a couple. This is the mirror that was judged as Non-Authentic.

Don't know .... perhaps an error by the judge ??????

Post a pic of your mirror.



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Originally Posted by Chev Nut
That isn't the mirror I described. Looked at all of their many mirors and none duplicate the clap-on mirror. To be honest I do not remember that mirror (door mount)and I am not sure if it is correct. Also I can find a picture of that mirror installed on a car.
From 1950-1954 we installed a screw mounted aftermarket mirror made by the J W Speaker company - which would be incorrect for judging.
I can't find my 1953 dealer albumn and the mirror is not pictures in thee 1954 albumn.

If the Chevs of the '40's catalog picture is accurate it looks more like a 1955 mirror. The drawing in the accessory manual shows a much shorter base on the mounting bracket.
The link to the picture on "Chevs of the 40s" that bobg1951chevy sent, is the same mirror on my car, and as the extras I bought from various vendors. The part number is correct as listed in the "Master Parts Catalog", but the mirror does not look like the rough pictures shown in the Accessories Installation Manual.

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Originally Posted by bobg1951chevy
Don't know .... perhaps an error by the judge ??????

Post a pic of your mirror.
I'm not sure how to post pictures yet, so I sent a PM to both you and Chevgene with a couple pictures of the mirror being sold by "Chevs of the 40s", and other venders for PN 986762, and lists the mirror for 52-54 Chevys.

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Originally Posted by Chev Nut
The depression (rim) ON THE BACK OF THE MIRROR IS VERY SHALLOW COMPARED TO THE PICTURE.
mY '50 has the original dealer installed mirror on it.
The 1949-1953 looked the same.
From the illustrations pictured in the "Accessories Installation Manual" for the '53, it looks like the body mount mirror also has the shallow depression around the back of the mirror, and has the arm center mass. I'm doing more research to see what I can find.

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Go to oldcarmanuals, 1952 Chevrolet ready refference time saver, has a "picture" of the door mount mirror. Looks like it may be close to correct.

I have a mirror out in the garage that looks like the reproduction that I bought from J C Whitney years ago for abvout $8.

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Thank you. That helps a lot. thanku


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Originally Posted by Chev Nut
Go to oldcarmanuals, 1952 Chevrolet ready refference time saver, has a "picture" of the door mount mirror. Looks like it may be close to correct.

I have a mirror out in the garage that looks like the reproduction that I bought from J C Whitney years ago for abvout $8.
Thank-you very much for the information. This was exactly what I was looking for. The picture of this mirror matches up with the "Master Parts Manual", section 10.185, with PN 986762, for both 52-53 passenger cars. I appreciate all your help!

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Russel (ruscar) - Thanks for the shortcut to the picture.

bobg1951chevy - Thank you for your participation in the post as well. Its been a pleasure.

I've learned a great deal from all you gentlemen concerning mirrors for the '53, and I've enjoyed the conversations!

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Originally Posted by Kidd59
Russel (ruscar) - Thanks for the shortcut to the picture.

bobg1951chevy - Thank you for your participation in the post as well. Its been a pleasure.

I've learned a great deal from all you gentlemen concerning mirrors for the '53, and I've enjoyed the conversations!

Mark

You are welcome. As I stated, I never saw this one, in the flesh. So we all learn. Now, if your mirror matches the pic, was it judging error or what ?



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Originally Posted by bobg1951chevy
You are welcome. As I stated, I never saw this one, in the flesh. So we all learn. Now, if your mirror matches the pic, was it judging error or what ?
No... it was judged correctly. My '53 has the reproduction mirror that venders are selling, and looks like the mirror you linked us to at "Chevs of the 40s". Replacing it would probably be major work, as the base for the true mirror probably won't match up to the holes drilled for the reproduction mirror, and of course that also is assuming one could find the actual mirror!

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I doubt very much if you would ever find a GM door mirror.

I learned something also. Either forgot about or never saw that mirror.

I will say the clamp-on versiion is perfectly positioned for viewing.
I have a used one that I found a a swap meet for $1....will put that on the right side some day.

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