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Hi,

I noticed that the shop manual says to set the idle to 300 rpm with the spark fully retarded.

I always retard the spark for starting, but I fully advance it for running.

What is the reasoning behind retarding the spark when setting the idle speed?

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It is to insure that the spark plug fires later in the cycle and that the explosion in the cylinder isn't restricting the rising of the piston on the compression stroke, exactly like why the spark should be retarded fully in order that the ignition for the fuel doesn't "kick Back" when cranking to start.You will get a smoother idle speed of 300 to 500 RPM. Of course the engine needs an advanced spark at higher RPMS in order that the burning curve of the air fuel mixture must get a jump on the positioning of the piston at higher speeds, since the burning speed of the mixture doesn't get a lot faster as the engine speed increases. Did that help?


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I thought he said that is was to keep the mechanical advance from influencing the setting?


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My wife been tryin to set my idle for a long time now



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Thanks MrMack. Makes sense.

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Hi guys, this might have answered my question as to why my '27 seems to run rich when everything seems to be adjusted correctly. I keep getting soot on my garage floor when I first start it up. I set the timing on fully retarded when I start it up! The air/fuel is adjusted correctly!
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Cold starts will always produce an extra rich mixture and some incomplete combustion. As long as the spark plugs don't get black and fuzzy you should be okay.


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