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I've purchased a NOS wiring harness for a 39 but I don't think it comes with wiring for the Town and Country Horns. Suppliers look like they want $80.00 and up. What are the specs and where do you get the stuff to make one? It seems as though it shouldn't be that hard? Thanks, regmudd

You can get the items needed to make a harness for your horns from either YnZ or Rhode Island Wiring.

Good timing as I have a set of town & country horns coming my way. Is it safe to assume you cannot use your existing horn wiring to control the town & country horns? My 38 has two firewall mounted horns, one on the left and one on the right.
Thanks
Mike A

The 1939 T&C horns require a switch that is mounted on the dash. The switch allows you to choose between the original "town" horn and the accessory "country" horns."
Let me know if that is what you have and I can email you the instalation nsructions.
The 1939 is the only year this exact feature was used.

I actually did see a town & country switch. Below is the catalog for the 1938 Chevrolet and a matched set of horns was an option, but they do not refer to them as Town & Country.

I have two horns and I think they might be slightly different sizes. I didn't think they put two horns in as a standard item and presumed they were the town and country. Regmudd

My horns are not on the firewall but sit on a wire frame over the engine.

The 1939 T&C horns came with a dash switch that had a plate that said "City/Country". Chevrolet described the accessory horns a "Double-Duo" and they were painted gray and mounted on the dash to radiator rods. They cost $9.50 in 1939.

The accessory horns on my '38 are mounted via a bracket that mounts to the "V" brace & a support between the bracket & firewall. A pre restoration pic is below.

Mine looks like your setup. regmudd@msn.com

Let me look at my car for the switch if there is one. Thanks. Regmudd

On my car the single horn was disconnected and the accessory horns were connected to the horn button. I made my own "Town & Country" horn switch using a three position (on circuit one/off/on circuit 2), two pole toggle switch. In the circuit one on position the single horn works & the accessory horns work in the circuit two on position. The OFF position is handy when I'm working around the horn button to prevent accidental honking. I hid the toggle switch under the dash. You can see it here next to my voltmeter.

Makes sense and thanks.

Chev Nut

I just bought these horns. Wondering if you could share a diaghram tohook them up on my 37 Chevy? I have modern 12 wire universal wiring. There is a wire marked "horn"

Thanks,

John K.

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This might help,



Brian

John, T&C horns were an accessory in 1939. With this accessory you installed the dual horns plus a dash mounted switch that enabled you to select using the original horn or the dual horns.
Prior to 1939 if you installed the accessory dual horns the original horn was disconected and removed.
Which use ae you planing to use?

Gene

I have a 36 FA (36-1011) that I plan to install the dual horns as well. I was of the opinion that this an option back in the day. Based on your post this switch was not an option right? Is the wiring harness need to be modified in some way to accommodate this dual horn option?

Thanks,
Tom H.

The under hood dual horns were an accessory for 1935 Master and all 1936 cars. The dual horns have a horn relay mounted to the horn mounting bar. The tabs the the wires attach to on the horns sould have ID letters on them. Because two horns draw a lot of amps a wire (12 Ga.) is run from the starter switch directly to the relay Another wire (16 Ga) goes to a relay terminal (it is a ground) and the third terminal on the relay connects to the horns themselves.
I can't find my instuctions as to which terminal is which so some one can help with that. I believe the S terminal is for the hot wire, H to the horns and G to the connector that runs up the steering column.

Thanks

The original horn is gone. So I guess only the T & C horn. I had some black under the hood horns, but when I sold my 38, I sold the horns separately. Now that I have the 37, I wish that I would not have sold them.

These are the markings on the EA horns that I have. Thanks for all the help guys!

Seeing they are not GM horns that may be hard to do. Do you have a good picure of the relay terminals?

Found this when i was looking for a description how to wire the Town and Country Horn. Now im surprised, because on my 1940 there are other Horns installed and i have two Horn Relais. Accessories Catalog from 1940 shows T&C as a Option.
My Wiring Harness needs to be restored, but the wiring does not make sense for me - but it worked. Why only one wire to the T&C Switch? Cutting the ground? Please look at my wiring plan and tell me how does it work? Did i make a mistake?

The 1940 and 1941 cars came with two matched horns.
The town and country accessory cut out one horn for the city position of the switch.
The 1939 town and country horns were a pair of matched horns and the original horn was maintained for the city horn.
There was a dual horn accessory for 1938 and prior and when they were installed the original horn was removed as there was no T&C switch offered.

In 1940 the US cars had the horns mounted at about the same level as the head lights.

And what do you think about the wiring? Why only one Cable to the switch?

This point must have been overlooked in this entire thread. All wiring between the radiator and grill is routed through the round support rod that runs across the front of the radiator. In most cases the horn wires exit on each end of the support rod and go directly to each horn.

If you are going to purchase any bulk wire or a harness, Y&Z are my recommendation.