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I hear there is no sheets for 64's. I am wondering what I have.I am unable to enter an image.
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There were 1964 build sheets. They were tucked in various places depending on the assembly plant.
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I am pretty sure the build sheets were not used until sometime after 64.
I have taken apart several 61-64's every nut and bolt down to the frame and never found one. The closest thing I came across was a punch card in a 63. I never even heard mention of a build sheet on 64 down and with all of these big dollar "numbers matching" cars I am sure I would have seen one by now to support the documentation
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Bought mine new and NEVER found a build sheet…I seem to recollect a punchcard but I'd need to dig thru my original paperwork...delivered late 63…Billu38
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Build sheets (or Broadcast Copies) were used at every assembly plant from '58-'64. They were sent via teletype machines to each sub-assembly station and feeder line, as well as along the main assembly line. They told the workers what parts and options to install. They weren't supposed to be left in the cars, but many were. One of the more common places to find one is inside the rear seat springs. The punch cards usually tell more about how the car was built than the Broadcast Copies do if you know how to read them. Verne Here's an example of one for a '64 SS built at the Wilmington plant.
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Verne, That is the first one of them I had ever seen from the "X" frame era, interesting.... they can't be too common to find? Bill Reid (I am sure you remember him from the old LGC days)who did a lot of interiors on these cars said he found them seat springs in every Buick he did from the 57 up but only an occasional punch card in the Chevy's never a sheet, thanks for sharing
There is something in the lower right corner of the copy all I can read is "Anchor Motor Frieght", what does that say?
I can't remember but did Wilmington have a Body Plant, or were they shipped in from Euclid?
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Anchor Motor Freight was the company that was hired to deliver the cars to dealers. Yes, Wilmington had a Fisher plant with it, coded BW on the cowl tag. I've never seen a Wilmington car that came from a different Fisher plant. Verne
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More information on Build Sheets, they were called Manifest in the assembly plant. Verne is correct about teletype machines being used to tell assemblers what parts and options were to be installed in the early years. We also had a Build Sheet (Maniifest) in 1954 when the Arlington Plant opened. A single piece of 8 1/2 by 11" colored paper, Arlington was a BOP plant and each vehicle had a different color Manifest. The Manifest was taped in the W/S opening, there were coded stickers stuck on the manifest (example C60 for AC, U63 for radio)to identify what parts and options were to be installed by assemblers, the Manifest was moved to the center of the W/S after it was installed. In later years when the computer came along Manifest's were printed by the Order dept. and distributed to the assembley line and sub-assembley stations. A Manifest (build sheet) was taped to the driver and passenger side door and the Assemblers used them to insatll the correct parts and options. The Manifest's were removed by assemblers on the shipping line. The reason build sheets are found in the rear seat lazy is because the seats were built in the cushion room area and moved by hang line to the assembley line, the operator compared the build sheet on the seats to the one on the vehicle it was to be installed in, he didn't always remove the build sheet before installation. A big part of the vehicle assembley is now being done by outside vendors and and trucked to the assembley plant for inatallation, less workers and less dollars.
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I found the build sheet for my 1961 Impala Convertible under the right fender and between the fender and inner fender. It was stuck there by a dob of undercoating(?) type substance. I tried to save the sheet, however it was too crispy and started falling apart when I tried to unfold it.
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I found my Index card for my 64 Impala SS in my original paperwork….doesn't tell me a heck of a lot though….Model, trim, color, ID number and the fact that it had Positraction (a no. 1 next to positraction), engine (a no. 2 next to engine), transmission (a no.3 next to transmission) and radio (a number 4 next to radio)…but the numbers don't go back to any sort of code…there's a large "4S" in blue in middle of the card….mine was a bare bones 64 SS (no air, no PS, no PB, no power windows)….all I could afford at 20 years old!!!! Probably can't buy a top of the line model today without any frills! Any Index Card explanations welcomed..no build sheet though…thx..Billu38
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Bill, If you can post a clear photo of your punch card, I can probably help decode it for you. The punched holes refer to the "column code" that appeared on the dealer ordering sheet. Verne
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Verne, I will but may be a while…I'm computer ILLITERATE when it comes to photos etc….get my daughterinlaw to do it…thx…Bill
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