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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-O...;item=111315607503&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

I'm not sure if this is the right forum or not. Because the car is unique to 41 and owing to the fact that I have a project one, I have a question or two.

a. Why is it that in every picture of cameo cream paint, it appears to not shine? Seems like it was painted with flat paint.

b. Other than Gene, who said he saw one in the show room where he worked, I don't remember very many people saying they like the unique to 41 cabriolet cameo cream. Why is that?

c. I noted that the owner, like most 41 owners, seems to think that red paint must be put in every groove on the car. Why is that?

d. Does this car have the right heater. If so, was there a upgrade model?

e. The spot light doesn't appear to be the correct one. I'm pretty sure it incorrect. Anyone disagree?

f. Is the "bat-wing" accessory tail pipe extension about the rarest accessory for the 41? Or is it the unbrella? If not those, what?

g. I think that BF Goodrich tires would have looked better. Just my opinion.

h. Does anyone note any discreprencies that I haven't mentioned?

PLEASE NOTE; IT IS NOT MY INTENT TO PICK THIS OWNERS CAR APART. IT IS A SUPER NICE CAR WITH SOME RARE ACCESSORIES. And done about 99.9% right. I WOULD BE PROUD TO OWN IT. I'D THEN SELL OF THE 50 CONVERTIBLE, 41 PROJECT AND THE COUPE. Then, I WOULD THEN JUST PAMPER THIS YELLER CAR.

Charlie

No joking, a great looking and rare car. $90K+? Charlie, would you plan to drive it to the ice cream stand, church, etc?

Its a beautiful car. The heater is NOT a Chevrolet heater, horns under the hood are from a 1939 ('41 didn't have horns under the hood), underside of the hood is body color, should be black spotlight is 1948, Tires? whites look too wide, probably 6.50's, Too much red paint, 1940 sharks tooth discs,
because of light color shine doesn't show, color may be a tad too dark but I could live with it because it looks good on a convertible and exclusive to the convertible, ....this is what I memember, will have to look at the pictures again.
$90,000-gulp

There are even more flaws in the car. Umbrella holder mounted wrong, should be on a more pronounced slope. Windshield washer button mounted through the dash and not under the lip in the hole provided for it. A bundle of wires under the hood by the steering column. Anyway, a nice $50,000 car.

Besides what Gene mentioned I spotted this:

Accessory switches should be carmel brown.

Inside of back window frame should be painted to match top bows.

Carpet inserts on front mat should be red.

All cabriolet sun visors are tan not trim color...but nobody does that.

Top boot appears to be vinyl should be canvas with red binding.

Top should have red binding on edge of curtain opening.

Polarity reversing switch in not present.

Oil fill/draft tube should be engine color.

Having said that it's still a very nice car. It's been on Hemmings.com for several months with a video of it running/driving and sounds good. Here's the link: http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/chevrolet/special_deluxe/1612996.html

Jay

for 90 grand, I would expect to get the correct top boot, hartz cloth with red piping, with the correct type bag to keep the boot in, all of the tools in the tool kit, this one seems to have some wrenches missing ,a backup light which is either chrome plated or painted the body color, the spare wheel with the correct pinstriping on it, the correct color on the umbrella holder, the correct umbrella with the correct colors on it,the correct town and country horn switch plate, brown with white lettering on it, mounted correctly, a genuine gm outside thermometer chrome plated, the correct heater & defroster switches along with the correct heater and defroster,
the correct glareproof mirror with the back painted the correct color, maple brown, a redhead flashlite, an electric clock, the correct braided brass ground strap on the battery, I also believe the the door step plates are incorrect for the cabriolet along the other things already mentioned. also the seller states the the car was built in oakland, according to my literture all cabriolets were built in flint. nice car but not for 90,000, plus all the sales tax and other costs included, also why would anyone put 1942 tags on a 1941 auto? the best in the world! I think not.

The raod draft tube should be black. The clock can be a wind-up as it was standard equpment in a Special Deluxe with the eletric being an accessory.
The 1941 came with one wrench. 1/2/9/16
incorrect oil filter
Correct, in 1941 convertibles were assembled at Flint plant.

That is definitely a nice car....but not the "best in the world".

Dang! You all sure spotted a lot of stuff. Wow!

Tell me, did the original speedometers and clocks come with such a pronounced dark color to center their center. You know the disc that is about 2 and 1/2 inches in diameter. Just don't look right to me.

The tan sun-visors on all cabriolets. I sure didn't know that.

After seeing all that extra red paint, I guess I just flipped out and didn't notice the rest of the stuff.

I'm with DIZ on this. For 90k this car should be perfect or just about and have all the accessories. The green one at Hershey each year is probably better. Don't think much of green in 41, though.

Thanks for looking. These mistakes pointed out on this car will help me on the project. I looked at it again today.

Charlie

BTW: Is there anyone besides me that thinks that the combination of an under dash defroster and an under-seat heater is a nicer combo than the under dash heater with the defroster mounted on top?

The speedometer and clock centers were not that dark originally. They did fade to almost nothing over the years. For some reason if the car had an eletric clock the clock didn't fade as much. I don't know who made the accessory eletric clock but three different companies made the wind-up.

Note tha there is NO reserve on the '41.

I like the center armrest is has and is that original.

YES! the center arm rest is an original accessory.

Don't know how long you have been a member, but there was a series of articles that covered all the accessories for the 1941 car in the G&D. The series was based on Ron Wade's car which took 1st place in the judging in Springfield, Illinois. You can see pictures of the car in most any publication from Chev's of the 40's. I can assure you that Ron"s car will leave the Cabriolet listed in eBay in the dust. $90,000 ? Never!

I was the mechanic that supervised the preparation of Ron's car for the judging in IL.

With all the little things that are wrong how could it be a AACA senior winner,one would think someone would have caught it if there are wrong year parts on it.

The reality is that in general VCCA judging is more likely to deduct for technical issues like incorrect year parts or accessories and AACA judging for quality issues such as fit and finish. Of course both systems depend on the knowledge and training of the judges. The AACA has many more judges that travel from meet to meet just to judge than the VCCA.