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I had a guy ask me whats the difference between a 1936 chev master and a 1936 chev standard series.

I know the master has the knee action front end and the standard has beam axle on eliptical front leafs springs.

What else ????????????????

thanks mike

A 1936 Master could be purchased with leaf front springs. Was rare in 1936 to see one.
The Standard had two dials on the dash, the Master three. The standard has 5 lug wheels the Master 6. Whie they both have the same engine the
standard has a lighter non-syncro transmission and a lighter differential.
The 2 door Std had bucket front seats the Mas. a bench. In 4 door models the Std dosen't have a opening vent window in the rear quarter, the Master does.
The Standard ad a box section frame (like all 1937-1954 cars) and the Master has an open channel frame with Y K bracing in the center.
The Std had a shorter wheel base and was a lighter car in general. The bumpers were also different, the Standard curved around on the ends like a 1931-1934.(and 1935 Std).

Master - Pinstripes, 6 lugs, whitewalls, instrument colors, hood ornament base, radiator fill, knee action, larger intake producing 6 extra ponies, possibly suicide doors on some models.
How did I do?

My standard has a bench.

All year Standards had a pin stripe, (note we are talking 1936 hear), never had white walls on any model in 1936, had two colors on the dash, chrome mouldings on the hood louvers, all 1936 models had the rad. filler under the hood and the smaller intake manifold.
Only the 1935 Master had front opening front doors.

I went to my 1940 issue of the master parts price list and came up with : for 1936

model FA passenger --- Master De Luxe with knee action
model FD passenger---. Master De luxe without knee action
model FC passenger-----sedan delivery...standard

Is there a difference in the front fenders master 1935--1936
Is the runningboards the same both years
is the rear fenders the same both years.

Digging deeper into my 1940 master parts price book I came up with :
FA series MASTER 113" WHEELBASE with 550-17 tires

FC series STANDARD PASSENGER MODELS wheelbase 109" 525-17 wheels


thank you for addional info, going to do more digging

mike

'36 Standard with bench seat. Mine is a Standard Town Sedan. That "Town Sedan" means a more fancy interior and Bucket Seats. The rope work around the door is fancier. Buttons and toughs on the seats. Smaller wing vents and smaller doors are on Standards. (Only a two door). Does have a dome light with a pull on and off switch. No temperature gauge, one sun visor, one windshield wiper, one tail light, no window shade in back window, no rope behind front seats or side straps to assist passengers getting into or out of back seat, rear windows only roll one half way down. Faster than a Master due to light car. Even with less horse power. Top speed approx. 68 M.P.H. Twelve Models made that year includes Master Deluxe Town Sedan, Master Deluxe Coach, Master Deluxe Coupe, Master Deluxe Sedan, Master Deluxe Sport Sedan, Master Deluxe Sport Coupe, Standard Sport Sedan, Standard Town Sedan, Standard Coach, Standard Cabaret, Standard Sedan and Standard Coupe. Oh! Yeah! With the ad saying, "Only Chevrolet gives the famous KNEE-ACTION GLIDING RIDE (TM) comfortable beyond any valid comparison, And only Chevrolet brings you GENUINE FISHER NO DRAFT VENTILATION (TM)for healthful comfort in all weather. SHOCKPROOF STEERING (TM) for greater driving and parking ease.

TERRILL...your description of a 36 standard sounds a lot like they carried the 34-35 standard basic features thru to the 36 std. one wiper, one window blind drivers side, one drivers side tail light all as standard equipment.

From what I was able to find looking thru the 1940 parts book, the 36 standard front fenders are different than the master, rears are the same. CORRECT ????

mike

Chevrolet used the Town Sedan name (beginning in 1933) for a two door with a built in truck. The truck-less two door was called a Coach. Interiors were the same for Town Sedan, having the same interior as all other Standards.
All "cheaper" two door models (Standards 1933-1936,Master 1937, 1938) all had bucket seats. The wing vents were the same as a Master Deluxe with the front door being slightly shorter as was rhe front protion of the rear quarter panel. The Standard and Master Deluxe used the same front and rear fenders, hood, grille shell and truck lid. The front fender of the straight axle cars (Master and Standard) were cut-out differently around the front frame spring mount area.
The Master Deluxe had only one visor, wiper and tail light although most had these accessories added.
Engine was exactly the same for both models and produced 79 H.P. Proving Ground top speed (two way run with 600 pound load) 76.5 for the Standard and 77.9 for the Master (perhaps the slightly larger tires gave an advantage). The Standard went from 10 to 60 MPH in high gear in 21.05 seconds and the heaiver Master in 24.23 seconds. The curb weight of the Standard tested was 2925 pounds and the Master was 3241 pounds.
Back then you would commonly find cars of the exact models were not always equal in performance and just advancing the timeing would make a big difference.
In 1936 the Master was by far the best riding low priced car where as the Standard was the poorest.Plymouth being better than Ford.
Of the four years of the Standard model (1933-1936) the 1936 was probably the best buy of the lot. Buyers afraid of the knee--action often bought the Standard as the Master so equipped was rare.

Hubcaps were different

Yup! Fenders are somewhat different and running boards are shorter, too. Doors not as long. If you are going for some body parts play safe and only get ones for your car type. Some Master parts will fit but make sure before buying them. Correct me if I am wrong here but I think some Master front fenders may fit on Standard. The inner fender on where the steering arm goes through does not match. You will have to cut new hole for it....things like that. Not sure about back fenders. About front bumper area through fenders area? (cut and weld?)Not sure if that will fit Master vs. Standard.

TERRILL........not my car have not seen it yet, have friend who has a friend in biker club who owns the car.

Just trying to find out as much as possible about the 2 models and which one he has , for when he asks me to help him find front fenders. Its a street rod I believe, so will direct him towards fiberglass front fenders.

The fiberglass makers do not differentiate between front glass fenders for 1936, they say all the same. Which is what I found yesterday in old Chicago online site.

mike

1935 Master and all 1936 rear fenders are the same.( same part numbers)
1936 Standard and Master front fenders are the same EXCEPT cars with leaf springs have the frame horn cut-out (Master and Standard).

One of the big differences in 1936 was a switch mid year to all steel frame in the doors vs wood frame. Steel door post. They got away from wood under the dash (cowl area), too. They kept the wood frame from the door latch side on back. They still nailed the side panel onto the door. They did this through small slits cut into the steel door frame that held the nail by pressure. Door arm rest were bolted. One screw was in the lower swing corner. The bottom had a strip held in place by fold over clips that was nailed into. The "Solid Steel" complete "Turret Top Body" and "New Perfected Hydraulic Brakes" were a hit. Let's not forget that your could finance you car with the "New Money-Saving G.M.A.C. Time Payment Plan" Wow! What a deal!

I always got a kick out of the all steel top and floor in 1935 and 1936. What they didn't tell you is the floor was nailed to wood sills.
Actually when they were newer the bodies were very solid and in closing a door for example sounded much more solid than the all stell bodies in a Ford or Plymouth - two makes that didn't even make their own bodies and still had a cloth insert top.