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On the cross over pan on a 1933 coupe, was pan attached to the body? I was told that weatherstrip was riveted to body and the cross over pan (under spare tire bracket) just butted up against weatherstrip. Pan was only bolted to rear fenders plus held on by bumper bolts and spare tire bracket. Can someone please verify this? Thanks

The pan does not attach to the body. The rear cover does have the fender welt attached at the top. It is held in place by the tire mount, fenders & some braces on the rear frame rail. The bumper would also keep it there....Joe

Yes the " rear gas tank cover panel " as its called in the parts book. Its attached with the two bumper bolts, also the 4 bolts that hold the spare tire carrier. On the sides 3 bolts each side will attach the gas tank cover panel to the fender per side.

Not sure about 1933 master, but 1934 1935 Chevrolet standards and 1934 master have a special bracket that attaches to the frame with 2 bolts and then attaches too the fender/gas tank cover panel top bolt , as a support bracket. I have no idea of what GM called this particular bracket, that is like a "N" design .


If you want to put FENDER WELT between the "gas tank cover panel" and the body, the gas tank cover panel has factory holes on the top edge where the welting would be attached most likely with a flat rivet type. My 34- 35 standard has these holes.

mike lynch

I have holes on both gas tank cover and body. Fender welt was attached to cover, was anything attached to body? In some of the holes in body there are some flat rivets.

does anyone have any of these brackets for sale or even pictures so I can replicate them. Email me at rmelius@venturafoods.com

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IF your referring to the area on the body just above the gas tank cover panel, that's a piece of ash or oak that goes across that area of the body and the body is nailed to the wood part. Its all part of the wood subframe the body is constructed around.

what may look like a rivet under there, is a CARRIAGE BOLT head you can see fairly small 1/4" shaft. That goes thru the wood and attaches underneath in the trunk or rear area.

The carriage bolt has a smooth top and underneath it is a square area that locks into the wood , so it will not turn. There is a nut and washer on the other end.

mike

Mike
I thought you used to make those brackets on the side of the frame rail. I used to see them all the time on e-bay...Joe

Hello Joe, yes I did and I still have about a 12 pair left, but they are for 1934-1935 Chevrolet standard series.

I do not know what Chevrolet actually called the part to be able to check to see if it fits other years......1933 specifically.

Do they fit a 33 standard series , I wish I knew, kinda makes sense they would fit the 33 std seeing as how its very similar to the 34-35. Whats your opinion ???? You have a 33 std coupe are there the 2 holes in the frame like I used to show in the pictures in the ebay ad.

I know that they " gasket tank cover support brackets " for 1934 MASTER are totally different. I do have a pair I was able to acquire as master patterns. I advertised in here for interested people and received zero response to making them. I also did it in ebay advert for the standard series ones, zero response.

As far as 1933 master CA series, I have no idea what they should look like and if they were ever produced ?? Only somebody with a 33 master original car could tell me that info. So far nobody has told me they do and shown me a picture of what they look like.

mike lynch

Mike
The closest thing I find that is probably that bracket is

8.216 Bracket, rear fender iron
370695 LH CA,DA
370696 RH CA,DA
473969 LH CC,DC.EC
473970 RH CC,DC,EC

This is from the 1938 parts catalog. In the 1934 catalog there's a rivet shown with this part

....Joe

Sounds like it should be it, but without a descriptive picture we are only guessing.

You have a 33 CC std series coupe, did your car come with the l&r side brackets on the frame about 7" from the end. You saw the ad I used to run and know what they look like. Nobody ever actually said they were buying a pair of them for a 33 standard.

Re the 33 -34 master CA_DA series part number. The pair I bought to reproduce , were off a 1934 master frame. Now I know by what you have dug out with the part numbers , that the 33 master also uses these same brackets.

The other possibility with the part numbers is that these could be the :rear fender iron: with rivets that fits inside the fender . Will have to look at my 34 parts book and my 1940 book


30 MINUTES LATER......JUST went to my 1934 Chevrolet parts book, no pictures but both those part numbers show up under , BRACKET, REAR FENDER IRON > IT SHOWS THE RIVETS AT 5/16 " X 7/8" LONG THAT MAKES SENSE for going thru the frame. If they were the under the fender brackets the rivets would only be 1/4" to go thru the fender.

EXCELLENT WORK JOE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mike