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See ebay 331142164031. Very original 1935 Master town sedan. Many details are shown so if nothing else good info. for restoring a 1935 Master.

Gene,

That is indeed a really nice looking original car. It's almost too good a shape to restore and almost bad enough to justify restoration. It would be a tough call for the new owner. I don't know what I would do but keeping it as is would have a strong pull.

Since this is a Master with knee-action, I suppose there was a Master Deluxe and a Standard, as well. This then would be the middle one, I guess.

Hard to believe it is that nice after all these years.

Thanks for posting.

Charlie

It would be a sin to restore that car.
In 1935 there was a Master Deluxe (which that is) and a Standard. You get get a M.D. with or with out knee-action. About 95% had knee-action
The Standard was an old fashion looking car (looked like a 1933-1934) and was a completely different animal except for the engine.
Even the upolstery color still sow well on that car which is unusual.

Did now notice there a push button starter under the dash so the starterator must not be working (but its there) and fuel line is spliced on right side . It also has the Warner Transmission that was used during the Chev. trans. strike (note high tower)

Do NOT touch (resto) this car. I would like to see a picture of the truck as this is THE rarity item in this car with the shelf and tire hold down. Superb patina. Need to correct under hood. Nicest original I have seen. Hope someone from this club goes for it and corals it. As long as you can stay on top of the knee action.

Wow, that really is a N-I-C-E car. I wonder what the minimum bid will need to be? Certainly more than the $13k starting bid.

I concur Gene... Don't touch it except for some minor mechanical fixes.

Gene,

Maybe the push-button is for the horn. It could be for something else, like the wolf whistle (or were they vacuum operated?). I didn't see a solenoid on the starter to justify the push-button for that purpose. (It could have been taken off)

I agree that it would be a shame to restore this car. Personally, I have always preferred to look at nice original rather than flawless replacement.

Charlie

WoW...

have to agree, a very nice !! Would just keep it as it is, fix anything Mechanical that NEEDS it, and enjoy !

What is the thought of the engine color?

Mystery solved on the push button. I asked when I viewed the car.
"don't know what It was for, since It is not hooked to anything"
Now it is just a great conversation piece, maybe ????
Richard

I asked him...Reserve WAS only $13,750...Already past that, now...That was reasonable...I would have removed that tacky horn off the "firewall", though...That's embarrassing..

The engine color is up in the air. For some reason engine colors never photograph well and the 1935 was lighter than you think as it aged.
Note that it doesn't have a heater, right tail light or wiper. Does have a hand brake release and cigar lighter.

I recon that push button is for that red horn

I think the engine color is correct. It looks the same as my original 35 pictures. But that was a 126 camera and a little darker light....My resto color looks nearly identical to this also. strange fuel lines and horns. Trumpets were what I have typically seen. I have a boot for that tall trans shift mount.

Dual trumpet horns were an accessory.

Note that it mentions safety glass delamination in the left rear window. In 1935 safety glss was installed in the windsield and vent windows only. It was required for all windows in some states so was a factory option.
It also has the accessory hood ornament.
Also has the original swept-up ends running board mouldings.

I see that the bids have met (and exceeded?) the reserve. I wasn't paying close enough attention to know at what point the reserve was met.

Anyway, I think the bids have about leveled off. I'm guessing not over $18K. After all, what will you have if you were to win the bid? You can't restore it and you can't use it. Much anyway. You use it you lose it. Sort of. You get the picture. Museum piece? Parades? Put it up on blocks and put it with the mushroom crop?

It looks like the driver's side door has some evidence of the window being rolled down enough to change the color of its upholstery. Not the passenger one. Note the difference. I guess that's normal.

I hope it finds a home where "preservation" is the key word.

What would you (any of you) do with it in order for it to not lose its present high state of preservation?

Charlie

I just love to see these survivors. Were it me, I'd buy it and plan to put 1500 miles a year on it going to local club events. At that rate, even 10 years out it would only have about 30,000 miles, nothing for these cars. I figure regular use would be good for it, and anyone familiar with the simple mechanics of these models should be able to keep it purring. My guess is it may top $20K due to its wonderful condition after 79 years. We'll know in a day or so.

It would appear there may be a bidding war brewing...It's up to $18,800 as of a few minutes ago...

Kevin,

It sure does appear so. I'm truly amazed that it has gone above 18K. Seems that 20K plus is far too much for this car. After all, it is not pristine enough to be museum quality.

It would be frowned upon at Pebble Beach Concurs and other upper crust shows. Attendees would question whether they had had too much champagne or not and, thus, seeing some unexpected specters. May cause some fainting. Use of smelling salts. Hankie fanning. And utterances of "Lordy, Lordy! How did that thing get in here." You get the picture.

Anyhow, the way I see it is that someone has the idea that it would make a cool street rod and may want it for that purpose. Let's see:

a. Mustang steering assembly.
b. Small block V8.
c. Twelve bolt rear end.
d. Air conditioning.
f. Modern bucket seats.
g. Duel exhaust with sweet sounding mufflers.
h. Narrow tires on front with Wide tires on rear.
i. Some flames painted on the hood and its side panels.
j. Blaster speakers.
k. Tilt steering.
l. Chop and channel.
m. Some south of the border upholstery.
n. Bright yellow paint job.
o. And last, but not least, a rakish Fulton.

The only thing left of that fine example of preservation will be the body. Well some of it, anyway. Enough that it will sport a 1935 horseless carriage or vintage car, license plate. Mercy!

Now you have spent about 15-25K more on it but have quadrupled the value to around the six figure mark. So as the price goes up in the bidding, the only to recoup your pay-out will be to rod it. Sadly (for us preservation nuts.)

What do you think of them apples? Keep in mind that those who adamately support the notion that "It's your car and you can do whatever you want with it" will be expected to join the rest in applauding the ROD-it decision.

Sorry. I'm rambling again.

Charlie

Charlie Your so funny...You of all people should know there's no money to be made "rodding out" this car...My opinion is it would be a waste of time and energy, not to mention money. The basic starting price of this beauty already makes "rodding it" prohibitive...It's now @ $20,000...If left alone the money will be "recooped" someday...Rod it, and watch your money sprout wings...

I think the same goes for the bother of going the "restoration" route...Hold on to the money you still have and enjoy the ride...!

Kevin,

I believe that you are "right-on."

The problem is that it is difficult for most of us to just let something be. We must tinker with it. Why is that?

Best,
Charlie

My experience is that among the lovers of genuine old cars there are often 2 schools: those who love to drive and show a beautifully restored car; and those who love to drive and show a very original car. Both in my experience get the same amount of pleasure and the same amount of attention. So it may come down to what $ one invests.

You can probably get a nicely restored version of this car for $30,000 or less, or buy one like this for circa $20,000. The main difference is an average guy would not mind tinkering with a survivor, but a beautifully restored one needs TLC. We have a guy in our club who has an all original '37 2 door sedan, been in family since new, lots of miles, never painted (except a couple touchups), original upholstery, engine etc. He holds his own at any car show and people marvel at how a car has remained so good after 75 yrs. This is the future I wish for this car.

The reality is those with lots of $$$ will not be concerned about selling, but rather a "nice clean solid car to start with". They build what they want and can afford and are not worried about the resale. Twenty grand is not out of reason if you are willing to spend 50 to 100 G's (or more) for the finished product. When you are willing to invest that kind of dough you want the best to start with, not a rust bucket that will cost twice as much to build.

Must be nice to have that kind of dough...! Whup..."More Hats in the Ring"...To bad I'm leaving for the weekend...I'd like to watch and see how this plays out...Fun to watch all the last minute bids...