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I see now that that is the truck and not the trailer. I looked and we do not have a picture of the wheel I was taking about.

The four 36 wheels are done. We need two more flaps to mount the other two tires. The old tires are off getting round again, lets hope they are good enough for the trailer when done.

My Dad said that he is getting better at dealing with the snap rings, these two went together quickly.

Blasted and ready for powder


Fresh from the oven

I think I would rethink the reuse of those old tires even if only on the trailer,I have some over 10 year old radials on my old F250 and they vibrated a bunch on a 300 mile round trip this weekend and will be replaced before another trip. I would hate to imagine the vibrations that much older tires could cause even if they are trued up.

I tend to agree with Jeff, if a tire has been sitting in the 1 position long enough to gain a flat spot it will not be much good even if trued which will also cause a balance issue.
Tony

$25.00 each to true them. $200.00 each to replace them. 45 MPH top speed with no load. 200 miles per year total use. HMMMM?

Mike

If for some reason they do not do what we need them to do I think we can go to a plan B. These are the same tires that have been on the back of the truck for many hundreds of miles already, now they are going to be round. I think they will suffice for the trailer until a killer deal on a better set comes along.

The other two wheels are done for the truck. I am looking forward to a report about the ride after they are installed.

The 36 went to my Dad's local car club show today. We were both hoping that this would be the first test run of the new tires but it did not quite work out.

Turns out that the pilot hole on two of the fresh wheels would not slide over the rear hub. These wheels were on the front of the truck when we got it and they do start on they just jam up and will not go all the way.

So to get the truck to the show he just used the old inners and put the new wheels and tires on the outside. Because the new tires are smaller they were not even on the ground for the trip. Looks like the truck will have to go into the shop to get the hubs cleaned up and then try the wheels again. If that does not work he will slightly enlarge the hole in the wheel until it will slide on.

There will be a few pictures from the car show coming, so stay tuned.

Here it is at the show. You can spy the 650 on the back that is a little smaller than the 700 on the inside.

Three of the tires that were sent to be made a round again should be back today. The fourth had a separated tread when they inflated it on their machine. So when they get dropped off today we hope to send two more and hopefully they will be serviceable. We do have trailer tire back up plan, my Dad has matched set of four 35 wheels with tires that could be used. We are not sure about the offset but a spacer could be used if it was needed.

The two inner wheels that have been on the truck are way heaver than the 36 wheels. They are made out of some thick stuff and are wider. I think with the smaller 650s and lighter wheels the truck might be quite a hot rod now.

The 36 wheels that would not go on are fine now that the powder was cleaned out of the center bore but all four are not mounted up because they all need to have the valve stems bent. Does anyone have any advice for bending the stems while they are mounted? It seems like there should be a tool for this but as of yet we have not found any thing official.

Last, while swapping wheels around on the back of the truck Dad found that he has a dragging brake again. He backed off the adjuster and made sure that emergence brake rods were slack and it is still dragging. This is an original wheel cylinder to the truck and though it looked fine when it was rebuilt he thinks it may be the culprit.

Still need to to tackle the trailer light problem but until we have wheels and brakes fixed on the truck and trailer it will have to wait.

Is he still planning to bring it to Rolla for the VCCA Southern Fall Tour one day? Talked about it several months ago.

That is the hope, the truck should be no trouble but getting the trailer wired is going to be the tough part. This weekend we are hoping to get all the tire stuff wrapped up. I think we will have to use the 35 wheels and tires on the trailer, lets hope they are round.

I look forward to seeing the truck.

We got the last two tires back so now we have five tires for the trailer that are hopefully round. Now we have to decide what wheels to mount them on.

The truck is going to my Dads shop today to get the brake problem fixed. Lets hope that the problem is an easy one to find.

I cleaned the right rear wheel cylinder, honed it and installed new cups. The cylinder was NOS when I installed it 1-1/2 or 2 years ago. I might have used it with the old cups. Re adjusted the rear brakes and the parking brake.
I made a stem bender for the 3" brass stems on my new inner tubes and bent the stems so I could mount the inside dual wheels. The stem would not clear the drum when straight.
I took a ride late this afternoon and it turns out that tires are supposed to be round. It makes quite a difference in the ride when the tires are not flat on one side. Dual wheels with flat sided tires which are not in time with each other gives up to four flat spots per tire revolution.
I am hoping to get the, now round, old tires mounted up for the Fruehauf so I can take it to Rolla, MO on Friday the 25th.
I dropped off the wheels at the sand blaster on my way home this afternoon.

Mike

We talked for awhile last night and it sounds like the truck is a ton better. I think that in the long run this will translate to a lot more miles on the truck. I will post some more pictures soon.

Wheels for the truck are all done!

The Truck and Trailer made it to the VCCA event in Rolla MO. They did not travel under their own power but they are there. I will post some pictures when have them.

The trailer is sporting two of the tires that were made round again on freshly painted wheels. There was not enough time to get all of them done but it will be interesting to see who the whole thing drives with the tire situation sorted.

The truck and trailer were a big hit in Rolla MO on Friday. The truck and trailer got a ride down because the lights on the trailer were not ready and it is highway almost the whole way. With a top speed of about 45 the 90 plus mile trip would have been a long one and not so safe.

My Dad ended up answering questions about the truck most of the time and di not remember to take any pictures. I know that someone must have some that they could share. If you do let me know here or threw a PM, I would love to post some here.

Here is the truck ready to head down.

I see lots folks seem to be watching this thread, if you have never posted give a shout. I would love to see who is enjoying the progress.

Hi Sam, I've been watching the posts all along and enjoying every picture too. Your Dad has helped me with some parts for my '40 Special Deluxe over the past few years. Take Care, Don

I have been following the thread and was glad to see it at Rolla, we had a great tour thanks to Gene and Kaye.

I've been following this thread for a while as I worked with parts for the "big rigs" for 41 years.

I never miss the posts on your project. Too much useful information to miss! Really like the pictures and updates.

I was looking at my upcoming heater install for a few minutes today. In order for all the bolts and water pipes to miss the firewall tags, it looks like the bolts will be horizontal above the tags. I was thinking vertical but could not find a suitable location.
Horizontal positioning of the bolts places the core tanks at top and bottom. I had not thought to look at this before but it seems like top and bottom should be preferable, but maybe it doesn't matter.
Vertical bolts would be better for bearing the load of the heater full of water (not that it is very heavy) and would look more natural to me. There is no way for the tanks to be top/bottom and the bolts to be vertical.
I am using a heater which I believe to correct for 1936 (trucks?). It is a round housing with 2 doors which open to divert hot air toward the drivers side. It has a small blue Chevy tag at the the bottom and appears to have original wrinkle brown paint. Any thoughts?
It's great having you guys following our project. I had a good time at Rolla on Friday. I hope someone has some photos, I forgot to take any, after promising Sam that I would.

Mike