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Can anyone tell me (or tell me where I can find) the number of Superior coupes (both 2 passenger and 4 passenger) produced in 1925? Also, the color combinations available in 1925. Thanks very much for any information you can provide!
- The Ol Coach

I have not seen data on production quantities per model, but there were only the coupe, coach, sedan, roadster and touring with each having their own color combination. The coupe only came one way, but according to what I have heard is acceptable, you can use any combination that was available for the year of your car.

Sorry for the poor quality scan.

Nere are the other combinations.

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj496/rorness/coach1925_zps7b84b570.png
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj496/rorness/touring1925_zps1375dfc9.png
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj496/rorness/sedan1925_zps9748cebd.png

Roger

Thanks so much for the information, IMFALCO! So there wasn't a color combination using shades of blue? Thanks again!
- The Ol Coach

There were two versions of blue for the sedan. Early sedans were Aquamarine Blue and mid year sedans were Algerian Blue.

What model are you working on, early K or late K?

Roger

Thanks again, Roger. I don't know much about the car. I have a '20 and a '31 Chevy, but don't know a lot about a '25. I'm going to take a look at it, and all I know is that it is a restored "#1 condition" 1925 coupe that is painted "2 shades of blue." That was my reason for wanting to know if there was an original color combination featuring blue. I think you have answered my question. I appreciate the help!
- The Ol Coach

Hi
any photo's of the car

Peter

G'day, Peter - no pictures right now. I'm taking a trip tomorrow to see it, although I just found out a few hours ago that it is a '26!
- The Ol Coach

Roger,

I am in the process of acquiring a 1926 Roadster. Now, this car is currently painted a maroon/burgundy color on the body, which must deviate from the standard color.

Yet, though it appears to be a 1926 model year via the engine with its belt operated generator, etc... this roadster lacks exterior door handles. I have located other internet photos of 1926 roadsters, some have the exterior door handles, some don't.

So, would this Roadster fall under the production dates of 8-1-25 to 1-1-26 and have Buckingham Gray as its body color?

Thanks,

Jay

Hi Jay,

The confusion regarding what year car you are looking at in a picture can have a host of variables, some cars are put together using other parts from other years.
And people likely age there cars according to their paperwork, which can be misleading due to manufacturing dates versus selling dates.
There are many ways to age the car, as your engine may have been replaced. My 1925 had a 1926 engine in it when I got it.
Look at the extreme rear of the frame covering the gas tank. Is there a lip jutting out to the rear like the letter L, or does the rear have no lip and the rear points down like the letter I? L = ”˜26, I = ”˜25.
The ”˜25 motor is bolted to a separate forged steel cross member with 2 bolts, whereas the ”˜26 motor bolts to the stamped steel front cross member using one bolt with the use of a U shaped bracket.
The 1926 V had exterior door handles while the 1925 did not. The firewall on the ”˜26 has a large stamped sunburst impression and the ”˜25 has an arc above an inverted X stamped in it.
The 1925 roadster firewall has a large round cutout on the passenger side for the horn to mount and the ”˜26 does not.

So your question about the production color would need further knowledge to determine the correct answer.

Roger

Very good information Roger. Thanks for posting it.

Hi Roger,

That's excellent info.

This particular car is currently 400 miles away, so it will be a bit till I have another look-see, but...

It does have the X stamp on the firewall, as well as the firewall cutout for the horn on the passenger side. I don't recall about the rear frame lip or front mounting of the engine.

Yet, this car also has the advance/retard/throttle levers up on the steering wheel, and a horizontal fender brace for the headlamps,

So, its a bit more confusing, whether its a early K or a late K, I thought the early Ks did without the headlamp bar, but did have the levers up atop the steering wheel...

Jay

Hi Jay,

The next time you see the Roadster, look on the end of the seat riser for a tag. Copy the information from that tag. Check for any numbers on the block, particularly if it fits the format of C 12 26 and nearby a number that was cast into the block. If you remove the exhaust manifold and stamped into the head a number that should match the number stamped into the block on the pad. With this information we can give you a more positive identification of the vehicle.

Hi Jay,

The upper control levers came on early K and late V, but a steering column can be replaced. The headlight bar could have been added too. The headlights are different between early and late K also. The headlight bar on a '26 late V should be a stamped steel bar and the early V bar was a tube, flattened on the ends.

Roger

Jay: The '26 also had 2" brake linings. '25 had 1.5" brake linings.

Roger, Ray and Steve,

Thanks for all the pointers..

I checked over my photos, and it does appear to have a stamped headlight bar, a la 1926. Ditto for the headlamp rims.

I can't help but wonder if someone placed a 1925 Roadster body on a 1926 chassis.

I will check on the brake bands and engine mounting, for more clues,

Till then,

Thanks,

Jay

Following up on the 1925/1926 Roadster,

This car does have a single point front engine mounting, a la 1926,

it does have the stamped headlamp bar, ditto 1926,

it does have the two inch wide rear brake bands, 1926 style,

And it has the 1926 style headlamp rims,

Its Job number is 9K4156....

Now to compare this car to the one on eBay recently ;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1926...&vectorid=229466&forcev4exp=true

I inspected this car and found :

Spark/throttle mounted on dash,

no exterior door handles

1926 engine, two inch brake bands, correct front engine mount

A round headlamp bar, flattened on the ends,

A 1926 style full length trunk opening, opposed to the 1925 trunk opening.

This must have been a early 1926 car.....

So, either the car I am looking at was a 1926 car constructed with leftover 1925 Roadster body panels,,, or someone has dropped a 1925 Roadster body onto a 1926 chassis. Either way, its okay, I appreciate the 1926 upgrades. Still not sure if I should call it a 1925 or a 1926 Chevy, though...

ciao,

Jay