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Gidday Fellas

Move it here! Post it there!! Not Technical Enough!! This Forum, that Forum!!

How bout we just rename the VCCA to the "Very Confusing Chevrolet Association"

It is strange but that's the rule, if you keep asking questions about this matter you'll get an email telling you to refer to the rules. It makes it a little hard to circumvent the site but rank has its priviledge.

Amen, a good example of this was just posted about a woodie wagon being shown off in the wrong column. My membership is due to be paid and I am wondering!

The overall benefit of this site makes it STILL a great information site for old cars. The moving of posts by bus loads of moderators is a problem but just live with it. It's all about what the end result means to you. There are people on this site that can make your restoration a lot easier and most are really nice guys.
As you know this forum is mostly made up of older guys, like myself ,who are retired and don't have a lot to do. A moderator job might be filling that lack of not staying busy all day long. Just roll with the punches and keep the ole Chevy in the middle of that old winding road into the country.

I better quit for now,I might be in the wrong forum..

I went back and looked at the 37-42 forum posts and if you think about it at least 50% of the topics should be in the Mr Goodwrench forum. And about 25% should be in General Discusion forum. Thats why it so confusing as where to post.

Just thinking out loud.
No offence

Ken

Come one guys... I think that YOU'RE the ones who are confused.

It's NOT THAT DIFFICULT!

If you start a thread with TWO photos and text that says
then, it belongs in the General Discussion forum.

How hard is it to see that? I think if "some of you" posted a Technical question to START a thread once in a while, then you'd soon begin to see the difference. But I suspect that maybe you're not working on any Old Chevy's so that's why you don't ask any Technical questions.

I'm not slamming anyone - just trying to point out the "simplicity" of the system.
---->Ask a specific question about a specific Chevrolet year, and it goes in the Year-Forums.
----->Make a statement about "Charlie" and it goes in the General forums.

I totally agree with you, Bill.

Gidday Fellas,

I agree also, how it works and what is meant to go where, its not rocket science to workout but in saying that it still generates a fair bit of confusion from time to time for members and I dare say "newbies" are left scratching their heads with bewilderment due to threads being shifted as it is mentioned in various posts often and also after only being on here (mainly the 1928 section) for a couple of years I have a fair understanding about the rank and file of the moderators/members and the "privileges" that you talk about...

One of my favourite sayings is:

"KISS - Keep It Simple Stupid"

Not quite that easy. Even if you ask a technical question and then someone throws a remark about something else and then ....it goes from there ...for several posts as a few join in. BANG..the moderator steps in and moves it. The only way it can remain on the year model forum is to NEVER throw a remark that could cause a snowball effect. That's not going to be easy because guys like to kid around and get off subject.

This posts needs to be in another forum...grin

Bill,

I think we understand what you're saying. The trouble is that there are not many technical issues that can come up that would be "year specific" (for a certain year). For instance, the only "stand alone" things that I can think of for my 1941 would be something that is not shared by any other cars in any other year forum.

Here are some for 1941 that would be technically year specific:

a. Front clip, i.e., hood, fenders and all associated parts there-to except headlights buckets but including headlight doors.
b. all chrome trim except for tail light doors
c. radiator (40 is the same but a different part number, I think)
d. dash and gauges, et al.
e. most, but not all, accessories
f. rocker moldings
g. bumpers and accessories there-to
h. steering wheel
i. inside moldings
j. rear fender rock shields
k. trunk handle
l. wiring harness

Note: There is not one technical, year specific, mechanical question that I can think of for 1941. Not one.

Hardly ever do we 41 owners have a technical question about one of the above listed items. If we do so in the future, with the caveat that I have this right, I hope that we post in the year forum. All other technical question, I hope, will be in one of the MrGoodwrench forums.

I would have included the 41 radios in the year forum but, recent confusion on my part (now having been straightened out), it seems that all radio technical questions belong under "Accessories and radio, etc, under MrG and not year specific.

Have I got the right idea?

Best,
Charlie

BTW: I know that keeping us straight must be like trying to herd cats. Good luck. They don't pay you enough.

BTW2: You've been yelling at us, again, with all those capital letters. Remember you're the one who said so.

I really don't like members posting such provocative thread titles, so disrespectful to all of us in my opinion. As for the issue on hand, I'm restoring a '31, and visit the technical section for '29-'32 virtually every day, sometimes twice a day, anxious to learn what others know, ask questions, offer advice I have learned, and generally discuss these specific year's idiosyncrasies. I find great value in not having to wade through mounds of detritus trying to find what I need. I occasionally visit other sites for their specific purpose, parts wanted/for sale, Goodwrench specific topics etc as well as general discussions. I respect fully the role moderators take and exercise in trying within reason to keep things organized and I don't think it has anything to do with age, more likely maturity. So lets stop the provocative titles and carry on civil chat.

One of the truly valuable reasons for ensuring that information is posted within the correct part of the forum is to assist those of us seeking information.

If I was looking for information about how to replace the cowl lacing on my 1929 then I will search within the appropriate boards. This makes the search quicker and reduces the chances that my results get clouded with 1924 cowls and boot laces.

One of the problems this forum has that dilutes that logic is that the search functionality is not that strong and often a well thought out search doesn't produce good results. BUT... the only way that this can get better is if the moderators keep on the task of moving threads into the correct forums.

Grant, I take you point that it can be confusing for new members, but that's where the role of the moderators come in. Move the post and send the member a quick PM about why and after a couple of re-directions the new member has it sussed. Although there is always one or two that will never get it!

I like my forums and the information within them to be neatly organised into logical areas and this helps me find what I'm looking for. If this means that some of the social "chatter" gets moved into the more "General" areas of the forum I'm actually happy to see it.

Now what works for me, may not work for you all, so if it don't work for you then you'd better hope they never make me a moderator. LOL

Amen, Skidd.

I believe that until the technical years forums have an adequate means of searching confusion will continue to run rampant. Those of us who are members have learned to navigate the system, however most times the "Guest" outnumber the members by a two to one margin. I would think most guest are visiting to get information rather than to chat. Making that information readily available should help to gain new members. It can also reduce the moderators constant need to move post.

Charlie, to be fair I think that you might be reading something into Bill's post that wasn't actually said.

As far as I can see there is not a specific part of the forum for 1941 Chevys so that can't be what Bill was expecting. The forum has a board for 1912-1942 and then a sub-board for 1937-1942. I'm assuming that there is a fair amount of commonality between the 1937 to 1942 models (I don't know for a fact).

So I see Bill's expectation that information relating models that span 1937 and 1942 get posted in that part of the forum.... your 1941 included.

To me the year span specific forums are the default place to post questions about my particular car. If I want to discuss something in general that may apply to a range of model years I would use the Mr Goodwrench boards. As an example; "Why did Chevrolet choose to use Acme brand widgits on their wigwams?" should probably go in the Mr G area.

Like all things the art of moderation (deciding what belongs where in a forum) is going to be a bit subjective. Different moderators can view the same issue differently and their view can be influenced by their perception of the characters involved. It takes a good team of people to moderate a forum well and in a consistent manner when compared to each other.

I for one take my hat off to the moderators on this forum for an unappreciated job well done.

Steve, I absolutely agree with you on that. Keeping in mind that the search tools are not technical area specific but that part of the forum is where they are most useful. A great search tool makes the forum much easier to use for everyone. People will always ask that question that has been asked a million times before and they do so for two common reasons;

• The search function didn't find it, and
• they didn't bother searching for it.

The latter can be corrected by moderators keeping on the job by locking and redirecting duplicate threads. The former really is a software functionality and indexing issue for the webmaster.


Again I agree 100%. I came here looking for information. I found a great wealth of information and met a lot of knowledgeable people who were happy to share what they knew. It was this that prompted me to pay and join the VCCA. I was happy to contribute when I saw what I was getting. I am testimony to that view that you will gain members if the forum has useful information that can be accessed.

One benefit that I had was that I came here being pretty experienced in forums, their etiquette and how to navigate them. Others may not have had it as easy as I did.

BTW I'm not pestering to have people improve the current search function. I'm simply making an observation that other forums have much better searching capabilities when compared to ours.

I believe it would be to the club's advantage to explore how to improve what I consider the most informative Chevy site that is online. Bill and the moderators are doing an excellent job, but I feel that with increased usage at some point they will become overwhelmed. If there are ways to improve the system and lessen the load that Bill and his volunteer crew have I feel it is in the clubs best interest to find and implement them.