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#25592 11/09/03 11:28 AM
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Does anyone have a schematic diagram for the original and Town & Country horns that would include the year 1938? Something is wrong with my original horn and one of the T&C horns.

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Town and Country horns were not available until 1939.And that is the only year that had true T&C horns.In 1939 the dual horns were installed and the production horn was also retained.A switch was mounted on the dash so the dual horns could be used in the country and the production horn in town.

If the dual horns were installed in 1938 the production horn was either removed or just disconnected.

In 1940-41 a T&C switch was sold as an accessory but it just cut out one of the dual production horns for the town horn.

If you have a 1939 T&C dash switch I have a wiring disgram for that.


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Gene, if you're defining "Town & Country" horns as the two trumpet accessory horns WITH a switch allowing just one trumpet to be used ("Town") or both trumpets ("Country"), then I agree with you. The two trumpet horn however, sans switch, was available in 1937 and called "Matched Horns" per Chevrolet's accessory manual. Many people today refer (erroneously) to the '37 & '38 matched horns as "Town & Country" horns. So, the question is: Does bigbth have the horns set up with a switch or just so both horns will sound off at the same time??

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Bob,
T&C horns are the 1939 version only.Both of the accessory "matched" horns operate with the switch turned to the country position and the little beep-beep manifold operates in the Town position.This set-up was available only in 1939.

Matched horns were available from 1935-39 but (35-36 the same-37-38-39 all were different looking) only '39 had the beep-beep horn operational thru the switch.On the prior years the two matched horns sounded together.

Yes, I am thinking that he is under the impression that all three horns can be used---without the Town & Country switch.


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Woa boys! Your getting way to far ahead. Yes they were not the true Town and Country horns, they were called at the time the "matched horns". However if you wire them with a switch to switch between the "matched horns" and the original horn then you have effectively replicated the effect of the latter Town and Country horns. Right or wrong, good or bad.

Now back to the issue. Does anyone have a schematic diagram for the original and the "matched horns" that would include the year 1938? Has anyone every seen a repair manual for them?

Brian

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Brian,
You should know by now that I like to talk.. :arrow: ...The matched horns were wired as follows when installed.The power sorce is the starter switch.This means it got its power directly from the battery and a large 10 or 12 ga. wire went to tne horn relay .The other wire -which is the ground- goes to the wire coming out of the steering column.It takes the place of the wire that goes to the production horn.There are three terminals on the relay.The one to the right is for the power wire.The left is to the steering column and the center from the relay to the horns.If you wanted all three horns to blow -and it would be all at once-the column wire would need to be joined for both horns.There would be no way to operate the seperately without the '39 T&C switch.

There is no real way or manual to repair the horns.The round cover on the back can be removed and the contacts inspected and the gap adusted -by trial and error but not much more.Have you had the cover off.I have seen the diaphragms rusted to nothing.Testing them with 12 volts can sometimes "wake the up".


Gene Schneider

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