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I was wondering if someone could tell me what year frame this is, I think it is a 33 or 34, but not positive. Some measurements are, 152 5/8 inch overall length, 44 1/4 inches wide at the very back, 26 1/8 inch across the very front, and 34 3/4 inch across the center. Center to center on the front spring shackles are 35 1/4 inch, and center to center on the rear spring shacles are 52 inches. The frame is 5 inches wide at the middle of the frame.
The frame is straight with no signs of ever being hit or repaired and it is in good shape, not rusty or pitted. Some of the cross members have been cut. I am going to sell the frame, but I would like to identify it first. Thanks for any help.
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It's not 1933 to 1935 Standard & it's not 1934 Master. What is the center to center measurements where the bumper bolt?


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Previous poster ( jiaccino ) is correct its not a 33--35 chev standard series, but it has areas that look like it. Rear spring shackles BEFORE the rear end are wrong for 33 -35. The rear spring front shackle is part of the runningboard bracket. I think its in the 1932--35 era of GM but you may want to look at pontiacs, olds, small buicks 50 series .

My friend Frank when he was building a 31 olds 6 coupe, his frame looked similar to that.

If you could determine where the center of a rear end would be based on the frame hump center and using the front radiator mount, you could come close to what the wheelbase would be...........and that should get you closer in a lead to what the frame might fit. This may also be a GM truck frame 33--36 ??

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I'd be leaning towards an Oldsmobile chassis,possibly from the early '30's,maybe back to 1931/32.All the spring shackle brackets
(the rear of the front springs and rear of the rear springs)are the same looking "TRYON" type as my '29 Olds.The front & rear spring brackets also have the bumper bar mounting bolt holes in them,which are also the same as my Olds.

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Thanks for the info. jiaccino, here are the center to center measurements where the bumper bolt, the back is 42 3/4 inches, and the front is 24 3/4 inches. The closest I can figure for the wheelbase is about 106 5/8 to 106 3/4 inches.
The reason I thought 33-36 chevy is because the old fella I got it from used to have alot of 33 and 34 chevys and lots of parts for them.
Thanks everyone for anymore info you can help me with.

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Your frame might have some brackets removed from it ? Here is some information i have.

center to center on the frame horns bumper mounts are:

1934 master ............................F 26 11/16 R 42 9/6
1934 standard ..........................F 28 1/16 R 42 17/32
1934 master 1/2 ton truck frame ........F 24 9/16 R 42 1/2
1934 master 1 1/2 ton truck frame.......F 25 7/8 R 36

the 106--7 inch wheelbase would make it a standard series.

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It can't be 34 Master as they didn't have front leaf springs....Joe


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It is not a 33 Master.


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I sent my friend Frank who runs vintage vehicle services GM Canada and who I mentioned had redone a 1931 oldsmobile six coupe.
His reply to the pictures is :
" You sure come up with some dandies. Its hard to identify this from the pictures. It looks like a 1931 chevrolet frame. This was the first year that the rear frame crossmember looked like this one, depressed on each side of its center with slots in it. The frame looks like it could be missing the transmission mounting crossmember. The front body bolt wouold go thru the frame and thru the transmission mount as well. Just to give some frame dimensions. The frame side rail depth for 1931 was 5 inches ( at the outside edges ), and the flange width was 2 1/4" and had a wheel base of 109 inches. I don't have the dimensions for bumper mounting widths. The 1932 frame was the same as the 1931 frame as far as I can tell , and had the following dimensions :

overall frame length.............152 11/32
width of frame at rear........... 43 63/64
with of frame at front............25 63/64
number of crossmemebers 5
thickness of side member ( at section of maximum load ) 9/64
amount of frame kick-up....4 7/8

FRANK AGUECI President VINTAGE VEHICLE SERVICES CANADA "

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Thanks to everyone who has replied and helped out. I am still not positive, but from the info that I recieved from Mike Lynch, it appears that it may be a 31 or 32 frame. I am going to sell it, but I want to be 100% sure of what it is.

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Originally Posted by Keith54
Thanks to everyone who has replied and helped out. I am still not positive, but from the info that I recieved from Mike Lynch, it appears that it may be a 31 or 32 frame. I am going to sell it, but I want to be 100% sure of what it is.
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As long as you supply your measured correct dimensions in your ad and quality pictures of the front and rear crossmembers, it should allow any potential purchaser who needs to replace his frame because its been hacked up, with all the info they need.

Just tried to help as much as i can.

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