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#251635 08/09/12 10:58 PM
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I am new to the 4 cylinder area. I have a 1928 with wood spoke wheels. What is needed to convert to steel disc wheels?


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are your wheels jaxon type? if so I think all you need is some steel wheels, your rims should work as I understand the rims are interchangeable with wood spoke and steel wheel assuming they are both jaxon type. perhaps the kelsey hayes type is similarly interchangeable. I may have some steel wheels, will not be back home for a week or so.
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In addition to the wheels the hubs need to be changed. You need to have studs to bolt on the wheels. Rims, clamps and bolts will work on either wheel.


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Brake drums must be changed also.


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Thanks for the info.

What is the difference on the brake drums?


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The major difference in the wood spoke and steel disc wheels is in the bolt pattern. The discs have a standard diameter and spacing of the bolt circle that fits wheels into the 50s or later. It is different for the wood wheels. That is why the hubs, studs (or bolts), drums all have to be changed.


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Again thank you for the info. I will probably stick with the wood spoke wheels for the time being.


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there are 3 steel wheels on ebay buy it now 40 each. deal of the day.


I have a 1927 Chevy Capital AA 4 Door also a 1927 Chevy Touring car, a 1936 Chevy 1/2 ton and a 2010 Corvette LT3 Convertible and a 1953 Packard Caribbean. My tow car is a 2011 Suburban.
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Are you sure the wheels are '28? I thought they were earlier. '28 wheels have a wider flange than the earlier disc wheels. Have wider rims and longer bolts too.


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yes they may be 27, sorry

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28 is 3 inches across and the 27 and earlier are 2 1/2. They are not interchangeable.


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2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ
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what is a "jaxon type" wheel, how many types were there??

I also have 2 front wheels with the hubs still in them if your interested, I'm in Colorado, will trade for 4 rims

send me a PM

thanks ron

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Jaxon wheels have slots that accept the Jaxon clamp which have Jaxon name cast on them. The other type, I understand only 2 types, are the Kelsey Hayes type, this type does not have slot and may have Hayes cast in clamp. I understand that the Jaxon is a stronger wheel and would be found on trucks mostly but also some cars. Jaxon are more desirable. Do your wheels have drums?
Does anyone know why everyone has two front for sale and no rears?

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Originally Posted by Ken_Naber
Does anyone know why everyone has two front for sale and no rears?

Probably because the rear hubs have a nasty habit of cracking along the keyway, making the wheel unusable. When this happena the hubs cannot be tightened properly on the axle taper. I recently had to discard seven back hubs which proved to be cracked before finding one usable one.

Frank.

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that explains that, how does one find 7 rear hubs? can they be welded?


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Yes, Ken, the hubs can sometimes be welded if they are not badly deformed (can occur from being removed too robustly!). It's not a job though for the average hobbiest unless very experienced. My brother, a certified welder for over 40 years, has repaired them for me using special alloy rods, careful veeing out of cracks and preheating the hub w/ acetylene torch. The hubs were cast steel and from what brother told me, a high carbon alloy of the day. The special weld rod is readily available ( high chromium proprietory stuff).
Don't know about 'land down under' but I bet there are alot of good hubs laying in private stashes in north America that become 'available' for the right price or relationship. Welding up rare items may not be $$$ smart.
Dan

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This subject may have been covered previously but I have not seen it if it has. I fortunately don't have the problem with cracked hubs but rather hub wear on the rear of my 27. I understand it is a common problem I have shimmed both hubs with cut down olive oil tin sheeting to bring the drums clear of the bracket to avoid grinding into it over time. So far it has been effective but seems a bit primitive.

Is this the only way to deal with worn hub taper or are there any better options?

thanks

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Bob
you guys down under are the best! great on the spot fix, I would wonder if the axle is contributing, apparently you have some end play problem also. You probably need to find some new hubs. I think earlier wood spokes are more common so have you considered looking for another year? The rims would need to match and probably new tires. Maybe a 1920-1925 rear wheel. I am not sure but they might match axle better. Hope you find your permanent solution, your quick fix allows you to have some fun now.
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Hello Bob,
Got a better idea than a shim on the axle taper.If you can,give me a call after say 7-30pm Friday night,and I can tell you how to fix the problem.
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(02)42611689

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Ken & Kevin thanks both for your responses, will contact you Kevin.

Ken, I should have mentioned I have disc wheels not spokes, axles are good, the reason I shimmed the hubs was due to my checking when adjusting the brakes and finding the drum getting close to the bracket. Enquiries made indicated new or reproduction hubs were not available and any second hand hubs were likely to be as worn as mine. I got advice to shim to move the hubs out.

At the moment it seems to be working fine as I use the ute at least once every two weeks, I just thought longer term there might be a better option as I am sure this is a common problem.

Bob


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thanks, if you come up with solution please post.
thanks again
Ken


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Hi all, can I add a twist to the post? I have a '28 1-ton truck that has all spoke wheels. However, the rear wheels are the traditional 6-lug and the front have 4-lugs. I would like to change the front wheels (and whatever) to the 6-lug, which is original. My question is what needs to be changed, what could be kept and how do I accomplish this? Suggestions are welcomed and sources are cherished! This vehicle does not have front brakes. I would be open to swapping if that were an option. I believe the wheels on the front are probably for a car.
tks much,
Jerry

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Hello? Anyone, anyone. Ken...............Chipper........... anyone? Hello, anyone in there?

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What you need to make the conversion is a set of hubs from any of the trucks prior to 1928. If it does not have a front brake, you can use it. Hopefully you could get the complete unit, wheels and all.


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1928 Convertible, Sport, Cabriolet
1933 Eagle, Coupe
1941 Master Deluxe 5-Passenger Coupe
1950 Styleline Deluxe 4-Door Sedan
1950 Styleline Deluxe Convertible
2002 Pontiac, Montana, Passenger Van
2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ
2017 Silverado, Double Cab, Z71, 4X4, White, Standard Bed, LTZ

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If you have four lug hubs, you have a car front axle, but you can remove the hubs and install 6 lug hubs from a pre-29 car, or light truck. The 29-31 hubs are not deep enough for the spindle.

Roger

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