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Hi All, If there is any 1927 to 1928 HOLDEN body chevs which still have the paint codes tag on the floor/sill , could you please email me the letters and numbers so i can try to decode some of the info from the tags.
Thank you.

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Gidday Fellas,

Jack, I'm surprised a few more Aussies have not responded.

Anyways a few months back I carefully removed the 2 original tags from the old timber rail and placed them with great pride onto the new timbers in the same location...

Tag 1

L H L C
L C B H L D

Tag 2

HOLDEN
Body No. 5755
Mod CHEV NA
Series 28/121
Job No 3502

Hope this helps and if you can explain what this all means, well the first tag anyway that would be nice and I will list it on my blog

Thanks Monty .
If i can get enough info i can try to match similarities in the plates, and do some more detective work from there. Obviously the greater the number the more simililaties.
Your second plate on the Model line is CHEV NAT. TR (or sometimes TRR) , the stamping is very faint.
National tourer.

Thanks for the first response!!

Hi Jack,

The following is a bit spooky

I only have only the one tag, which reads

HOLDENS

BODY NO. 9640

MODEL. CHEV NAT TR

SERIES 28 / 121

JOB 3505

So if I read this correct, the Red Chev was 3 cars on the assembly line behind Monty.

The other bit of chit chat was when I re-registered the Red Chev in 2007. The guy at Vic Roads asked for a VIN number. I said no. He said oh yes you must have a VIN number. I again said no.

So when we walked out to the car and he saw the tag nailed on to the seat frame, he said that will do, and used the body number 9640.

Cheers

Ray

Gidday Fellas,


jack, I just had a phone call from Ray and his Chev is 3 units behind mine on the job number line being Job No.3505 and mine is Job No.3502

What a small world the is Ray and what are the chances.

Also jack, yes the Mod: line of print was very faint and I could not read the last letters

My my,

How those older cars weathered so much more than their younger cousins.

JOB NUMBER 3502


JOB NUMBER 3505




What can I say?

Still think its bloody freaky!

Cheers

Ray

And the key word there is "Older" - So you now just go easy on him now Ray...

BTW Older does not mean slower time will tell with that I guess

Ray,

By the look of those two comparing pictures, I think mine was built on a stinky hot Friday afternoon at 4.00pm and yours the following Monday morning, that must explain the lackluster finish on the paint work, the missing steering wheel sections and also the somewhat lack of attention to detail with the interior treatments.

Anything else you can think of?

Hi Grant,

Nuh, happy with that.

Cheers

Ray

Those Job numbers are pretty standard for the 1928-32 model cars. 3502, 3504, i have pictures of a 1929 plate which is 3502 NAT TR (on a 1929)but is missing the 28/121, so they must have prestamped the plates before they went onto the car , and then stamped the body number last?.
I have a picture of a 1931 tourer plate which has job number 3503. and a 1931 or 1932 roadster series 2 with a job number CR6.

I think perhaps there is confusion between body style (the Job#) and the vehicles place in the production line (body #). Over here for example in 1930 Job 8840 was a sport coupe, Job 8840 was a Sedan, 8860 was a Landeau, 8870 a Coach etc. Similar sets of #'s were used in '31, '32 etc with each different style/model referred to by it's Job #. If this is the case in AU, then that would suggest 3505 and 3502 were 2 different models from 1928. The body number is the means of identifying one car from another, similar to a serial number, and stamped in sequence as they came off assembly line. For the 2 '28's above this would suggest they were two different Models/Styles originally, perhaps one was a regular tourer, the other a special or something like that. The body # will tell how far apart they were on the assembly line. I am not familiar with '28 Job #'s nor the down-under numbering patterns. Just my impression.

Yes Gunsmoke , that is what i think. i think that there was a variance between the two job numbers, and that the two cars were 3885 bodies apart on the body line.

Gidday fellas,

Well that blows our little bit of fun out of the water then

Oh well Ray, mine will be still faster, just because, OK...

Grant,

As some wise person may have said.

"Its not the speed of the journey, but how you get there"

Anyway if you beat me by 5 minutes, please have a latte and cream cake waiting for me.

So yeh, you will be faster.

Cheers

Ray

My car has body no 4063 Chev Nat Trr Job 35 series 28/121 on one plate. On another it has SLHLC/DGHLH. Of course it also has the US plate with 22AB7078 on it.
My car is a two tone green tourer with disc wheels.
At some stage Max Boardman started to collate some of this information. I have no idea if it led anywhere.

Jack
I have a large collection of Chevrolet ID plates, from 1914 to 1939.
I also have similar in Holden ID plates, including every one for the different 28 models, plus a few paint code plates.
Holden body ID plates were aluminium and only appeared on Aus Chevs from 1926 until mid 1929.
It's an interesting subject. eg. all Aus early 29 Chevs had National tags, without the the body ID numbers. My best guess is they used up all the left over 28 tags until a brass GMA version was produced. 99% had a number only, which matched the chassis number, but I did find one with AC stamped in it.
Give me a ring and I'll be able to give you a lot of info. Or better still call in and I'll show you my collection.

BTW for everyone else. I have a near complete set of Chevrolet ID plates from 490 until they ended (in Aus) in 1929 but am missing a Superior V. If anyone in Aus. or US has a spare I'd love to complete my collection.
Chris

Terry , Thank you for your paint code numbers, much appreciated.

Chris, Thanks , can i call over on Saturday Morning , with a pen and paper,(Camera??) and write down some numbers and letters.
I Think i have worked out the the sequence of what is what for the 1929 -1930 (and 1931-32) paint plates so all the details i can collect will help me to put some more certainty to the paint plates,

The 1928 codes look a bit harder from what i have seen so far , but will ty to make some sence of them as i go.

Thanks and regards , Jack

Hi Jack, everytime I read one of your posts I see your cool avatar, which I assume is a '39 Roadster, likely a rare car. Do you have one and pics you care to share. It looks like a great style.

Yes,and yes , i will post some pictures, mine is still unrestored , but i have been doing a lot of work on it, hopefully one day it will be going again. not many left down here.

Hi Jack,

Here are the tag details from my 1928 Business Roadster.
Bit late but today was the first chance I've had to get to where it is stored.

Holden tag:

Body No 210
Model CHEV NAT ST RD
Series 28/122A
Job No 8061

Other tag:

1st line: GM 112LA
2nd line: BG NL 180 LE

The second tag looks more like the 29/30 numbers that have been quoted than the 1928 ones but both tags were definitely on the car when purchased in 1971.

The original paint colours were dark brown upper, light brown lower and black guards.

Hope this is of use.

Regards,
Greg.

Hi Greg , Thanks for adding another one.
Cheers, Jack

hi jack are you still looking for paint codes from 28s
could you help with my holden build 1928 job no 3501 cheers antonio

Hi Antonio , yes , but I haven't been able to locate to much to go on for 1928 Australian paint codes. Have found ( had shared with me) some 1929, 1931 and 1932.

Does your car still have both the Holden body plate , and the paint code plate?
Regards Jack

hi jack these are what i have
body no 4960
chev nat tourer
series 2672 ?
job no 3501

other tag model national
car no 28 AB 8015

other tag
GM 112 LB
BG NL 180 LG

CHEERS ANTONIO

Antonio,

Body Number 4960th body built at Woodville SA
Model Chevrolet National Tourer ( 1929 and 1930 Model tourers stamped the same)
Series 2672 ?? don't know (have seen 28/121 stamped here on a 1928)
Job Number 3501 , most tourers have this to signify possible trim details. other are 3502 and 3503

Car number 28 AB 8015 is the serial number for the completed car (chassis and body ) so 8015 may be the chassis number.


Paint tag
GM abbreviation for colour name , 112 shade number LB lot number (Lot B)
BG abbreviation for paint colour name, NL 9 I believe is the type of paint used Nitrocellulose Lacquer. and LG , lot G

The paint tag also has a crease down the centre which may indicate upper body and lower body.

Cheers Jack

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