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Hey RG,
It's a neat looking car. Waaaay too old for me, however. Is it even 'sorta' original?? I wouldn't think the color or interior were 'stock.' Don't know.
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it may not be original, but that doesn't mean it isn't easy on the eyes...  epi
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hey bob, when did you move to kaua'i?..  epi
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Never been there Kepi. I do understand it is a gorgeous place, the "Garden Island".
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you might try it sometime, bob...some very good deals for visitors, as it still has not recovered economically from hurricane iniki many years back...  epi
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Well, we know the hand brake does not hold and the engine has an odd look about it, but what else do you guys see that makes ya think it's not original? (besides the top, body and wheel colors)? Truck and rack?, rear tailites?
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I can't see the details that good but the stantion/windshield frame, hinges on the doors, the way the doors set to the body rails, door handles etc. are all diffenrent as well as what was mentioned above. Unless this is a holden body from Australia which is different than the USA made body, it may be made up. I still think the door hinges would be hid with the holden body but I may be wrong.
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There are a lot of things not correct with the "fake" phaeton. One would be the closed car instrument panel along with no interior door handles, incorrect outside door handles, wrong engine, and the list goes on.
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Definately not a Holden body as Holden continued with the 1931 body in 1932. Only difference being the 1932 firewall and different windscreen posts.
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So what do you guys think this thing is? How many of them are out there? Someone is ready to pay near 10K for it with 2 days left. I don't have sidemounts on my car, but I see the small rectangular brackets are missing on the firewall.
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The reserve hasn't been met yet so until that happens probably no one will own it. At any rate, this car is not the "real deal" and it is amazing how many bidders have not done their homework on this thing. So, I guess that all we can say is "let the buyer beware".
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Just noticed that the vin # ends with 521. Even I would pick up on his statement that only 419 were made. Duh...how did ya get a vin # with 521!
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The car serial number has absolutely nothing to do with how many of each "model" were made since the car serial number is concerned only with the total number of the "run" in each specific factory. Besides, the car serial number listed on eBay is incorrect anyway.
There were only 419 phaetons made in 1932, and this car isn't one of them! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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So Skippy, Would this one be called a "Fake-eton??" Bill. 
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Yeah Dog, we went thru the vin #'s with my coupe. I was just Phaeking!
That shifter looks strange too. Eather it's bent down and in 1st or 3rd gear or that "thing" is not a 32 shifter. Maybe the drive train and frame is from a later year.
It's a shame to see people ruining the hobby like this. Even though he does not mention the word Phaeton, he does say "only 419 made".
What get's me, is he says it's all steel. So were did those parts come from? Did some company attemp a Phaeton knock-off years ago? I have an EMI catalog from 1989 and they only did roadsters.
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The "fake" looks like parts of it could have possibly been a closed car at one time. :( :( :(
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Lots of people who own old cars know nothing about them. He may not be dishonest, just ignorant. It seems like these folks, and the crooks too, can always find another uninformed buyer who will pay their price. Mike
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The auction ended with a high bid of $17,500 and the reserve was not met. There were 26 bids on this thing! Unbelievable!
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dog, which is more unbelievable?..that there were twenty-six bids or that the reserve wasn't met at $17.k?..  epi
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Both!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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I called the guy up when it first came on ebay and told him I believed it was not an original car. The reserve was $20,000.
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