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I have a 1939 Chevrolet Master Deluxe and I can not identify the car the right way, because I can not identify the number plate on this car.
Someone could help me.
Plate number in this information are:
Style No. XEJA,
Body No. 663
Trim No. 900
Paint No. 1
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There should be another plate called a data plate with the unit serial number of the car on it. It'll be right next to the plate you describe.
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Dear Friend,
In the car has the number plate and another that described above, this off where you can read with some difficulty XEJA 663 ..
I just thought these two identifications of the car.
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The XE JA would indicate your car is indeed a 1939 Master deluxe The JA is that designation for Master Deluxe, the XE would have to do with Export, and possibly the location of assembly factory or factor of origin.
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Above this plate, there is another that off, where they can read with some difficulty, the letters XEJA andthe number 663, recorded.
If you want I can send photos via email, to assist in their identification.
Send any message in my email reply with photos. I can not put the photos on the forum, because I am not affiliated with the VCCA.
Congratulations for the beautiful photos of the Chevy coupe.
Thank you.
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Thanks for help.
The number 663 would be the numbering of the body, in this series for export, as in other masters that I have seen on the internet, the numerals that identify the body has six digits that identify the sequence and manufactures? The color indicated (No. 1) this code would be black?
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The trim and paint numbers are not the numbers used on US cars.
On US cars there are two number plates on the side of the cowl. One has the serial number of the car....and example would be 9 JA 6 21212
The other plate would have the body style number, body number (example N 12354) paint and trim numbers.
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It would be possible to identify the origin of the car?
Thanks.
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Yoyr car was assembled by GENERAL MOTORS DO BRASIL, S.A., SÂO PAULO, BRAZIL, and was assembled I think from kits of parts from Chevrolet Boxing Plant, Bloomfield, New Jersey. Our local plant, that opened December 1938, built some 1939 Chevrolets as well. It ceased assembly of cars with the outbreak of war in September 1939, and was bombed 30 November 1940. GENERAL MOTORS EXPORT PLANT CODES (known):
XA GENERAL MOTORS LIMITED, HENDON, LONDON, ENGLAND, APRIL 1923 TRUCKS/MAY 1924 CARS/MARCH 1925 CAR AND TRUCK BODIES
XB GENERAL MOTORS INTERNATIONAL A/S, KØBENHAVEN, DENMARK, ANNOUNCED October 1923, IN PRODUCTION January 7 1924 [Chevrolet truck]
XC GENERAL MOTORS ARGENTINA, BUENOS AIRES, April 1924
XD GENERAL MOTORS CONTINENTAL S.A., ANTWERP, BELGIUM, March 1925
XE GENERAL MOTORS DO BRASIL, S.A., SÂO PAULO, BRAZIL, September 1925 and then a further plant in Sao Caetano de Sul in 1929 for assembly of vehicles and bus bodies.
XF GENERAL MOTORS G.m.b.H., WAREHOUSE IN HAMBURG-FREIHAFEN [Free Trade Area], September 1925, TRUCK ASSEMBLY April 8 1926, then moved to Berlin-Charlottenhütte November 1926 until new plant opened a short distance away in Berlin-Karlsruher in October-December 1927. Assembly finished and became Zone Office in March 1932.
General Motors GmbH
Charlottenburger Strasse 63/85 Berlin … Borsigwalde
then Charlottenburger Strasse 1-93 Berlin-Borsigwalde
1925: G.M. Peninsular is established in Malaga, Spain, as General Motors Export Division’s first warehouse.
1925: General Motors (France) S.A. is organized with a sales office in Paris and warehouse in Le Havre.
XG GENERAL MOTORS SOUTH AFRICAN PTY. LIMITED, ELIZABETHTOWN, [LATER PORT ELIZABETH], August 1926
XH GENERAL MOTORS NEW ZEALAND LIMITED, PETONE, NEW ZEALAND, October 1926…although GM claim it started 30 August.
XI? GENERAL MOTORS URUGUYA S.A., MONTEVIDEO, November 1926 the REGIONAL HQ was located in the Arijon Building, Montevideo, Uruguay by September 1927.
XJ TO XN? [NEVER USED] GENERAL MOTORS (AUSTRALIA) PTY. LIMITED, 1 November 1926:
Adelaide
Brisbane
Melbourne
Perth
Sydney
XO? GENERAL MOTORS JAPAN LIMITED, OSAKA, April 1927 GM Japan Ltd. was established in Kobe, Japan and then set up the Osaka assembly plant about 20 miles away. CLOSED 1941
1926: General Motors Near East Limited, Alexandria, incorporated.
XP? U.A.C. OF NIGERIA LIMITED, LAGOS 1927 [Chevrolet CKD]
XQ GENERAL MOTORS JAVA HANDEL MIJ INCORPORATED FEBRUARY 3 1927 in TANJONG PRIOK [JAKARTA], BATAVIA, NETHERLANDS EAST INDIES serving N.E.I., Malay Federation, French Indo-China and Siam. However may have only started assembly in May 1927.
XR? NOT KNOWN!!
XS GENERAL MOTORS NØRDISKA, STOCKHOLM, 26 January, 1928
XT GENERAL MOTORS INDIA, BOMBAY, December 1928
XU? GENERAL MOTORS POLSCE w Sp. Zo o, WARSAW, September 1928 [to 1931]
XV? GENERAL MOTORS (FRANCE) S.A., LE HAVRE, 1931 to April 1932?
XW? GENERAL MOTORS PENINSULAR, BARCELONA, SPAIN 1932
XX? GENERAL MOTORS SUISSE, S.A., BIEL/BIENNE, 8 February 1936
XX? GENERAL MOTORS NEAR EAST, S.A., ALEXANDRIA., TRUCK ASSEMBLY, 1936
XY? GENERAL MOTORS DE MEXICO, TRUCK ASSEMBLY, 1936
LILPOP, RAU i LOWENSTEIN S.A., WARSAW, POLAND, 1935-39: No Code
GENERAL MOTORS (FRANCE) S.A., GENNEVILLIERS, January 1939..No Code?
GENERAL MOTORS LIMITED, SOUTHAMPTON…No Code, 8 December 1939, bombed 30 November 1940.
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Thanks for your help.
Greatly helped to clarify my doubts.
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I have found a printed photograph of the plant taken during the war. It seems that they made a lot of gas producer conversions using charcoal. I wonder if your car was converted during the war? This was before alcohol was being produced from sugar!
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The car does not seem to have been converted. The carburetor, fuel pump, I seem to be the original. In Brazil, during World War II, the cars were converted to use syngas, which was extracted from the charcoal. They used large tanks and reservoirs outside, stuck in the bumper brackets. When the war ended, these devices were removed, but they were the marks and holes to install the equipment. This is my Chevrolet, has no trace of having been converted to the use of syngas or other fuel.
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Photos would be nice...grin
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Photos would be nice...grin ...More great lessons in history...!
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The GMOO wartime book that I have a Xerox of shows what i think is a '42 with a gas producer unit on the back of the car. GM Suisse in Switzerland also built such units for all manner of vehicles.
I just wish I knew who has the last '39 Southampton built car..it was rumoured to have been sold in Italy!
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Charcoal gas producers were also used here in Aus but I dont have any photos of the units or installations. Some of my parents friends burnt their cars out with these units.
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The worst was the smell and smoke, besides the low performance of cars.
Today, these kits syngas is much sought after by collectors
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