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painting a 31 deluxe roadster: can any of the color comonations be used that is listed or is there only a few? Thanks Roger

If you plan on having the car judged, you are somewhat limited in color choices. If you are working on a 'driver', select any color you like.

I would like to think that I can finish it in away that would be good for judging, is there only the two colors that are marked roadster, that would be org.?

This is a quote from the 2008 Judging Manual. This may or may not be the current JM. I know that the manual is being worked on.

Quote: The paint code on the cowl tag does not have to match the paint on the vehicle (though it is encouraged), but the paint does have to be from the selections of Dupont colors for that model year. END Quote.

If anyone ask my opinion, and they have not, I feel strongly that the tag and paint color should match. This, like the engine rule, is a very bad rule.

Ray, I respect your opinion, but I have a different view. After spending thousands of hours and dollars restoring a car, I don't want to be disqualified from judging just because I feel that the only colors offered for my model in my year are butt ugly. I think that allowing any color combination that Chevy offered during your model year is a reasonable thing. It has allowed two of my cars to be class judged rather than CDPC, and I appreciate that. Now I have cars that can be judged, and that look the way I want "my" car to look.

To each his own, of course, but that's my two cents.

All the Best,

Chip

I have 9 cars and all are painted the original colors. In addition to the paint I have left no leaf unturned to restore the cars to as near original in all respects as I possibly can. I am extremely proud to show any of my cars and tell the viewer that he is looking at a vehicle that is as near as it came from the factory as you can get. They are historically correct. My 1933 Eagle is bone stock and original except a repaint before I purchased it. It needs tweaking all over, but I will keep it original as long as it runs and drives. Once you compromise, bring on the V-8, the automatic trans, the air, the 18 inch wide tires, where does it stop?

Let me make this clear. These are my standards and there is room for many more.

I agree. If you are going to restore a car as it came from the factory for judging puposes then, if the car has a Fisher Body, the vehicle should have the paint color that matches the paint code on the cowl tag. That is why the cowl tag is there. On open cars however, since they are made by Chevrolet and they don't have a cowl tag, then the paint color should be one that is specific to that model of open vehicle.

Ok, Iam I wrong? The roadster conv. is chevrolet and does not have a cowl tag. And then what about colors or Iam backwards again, with the cabriolet?I see in the "31" it has 2 paints that say roadster only

The roadster has a Chevrolet body and the cabriolet has a Fisher Body. The roadster doesn't have a cowl tag and the cabriolet does have a Fisher Body cowl tag.

There were several paint combinations that were specific to the roadster only.

Was there more than the 2 that is listed?

Yes there are more than two. Black, Green, Tan are three that come to mind. If you take the categories for the combinations listed for the roadsters and find them listed for another combination then it also was a roadster color.

Say what? Your going to have to tell me that again, so that a hayseed can understand, if you dont mind. Thanks, a little simple on this end. Roger

I'll type slowly. Each color combination contains a listing of areas on the body and hood that are painted a certain color. Two combinations that are identified as used on Roadsters (#64 Roadster, #65 Sport Roadster) have listings that are not on other listings. And example is "cushion retainer" or "top bow slat irons" that were one Phaeton and Roadsters. Those combinations were used on Phaeton and Roadster. Other combinations might also have been used on Roadsters but it will not be apparent from the Color Specifications. Is that better? Easier to understand?

By the way that process works for other body styles also.

I see said the blind man thanks alot I shall do more checking

Picking the desired color (or combination) is one part of painting success. Getting the details correct is also an important aspect. The designers back then spent a lot of effort to get the two-tones, moldings, window reveals, striping, and wheels just right (some might be considered butt ugly today, but not back then). I have seen too many of these vintage car ruined by poorly executed striping, two toning, or improper wire wheel colors, etc. The FS has excellent guide sheets and original black/white photos on most of this stuff for several models and they need to be studied carefully to ensure things end up looking not only correct, but also nice! Not simple painting one of these unless it is an all black model!

Now my grandpappy taught me "I see said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw." Sorry my first post was confusing. Even confused me when I read it later.

I thought it was "I see said the blind man to his deaf wife as he picked up his hammer & saw".

I could be wrong :)

Thanks everyone, I now know what you are saying on the color charts.I just looked quickly before and only seen the two combonations, . I see now the other referance points in some of the other combos. Its been good . Kinda fun Roger

Can some one point me to a thread that can tell me what colors were original for my car? It is a Fisher body, Oshawa, job 31558,
body 850
thanks, hk

What is the paint combination number on your cowl tag?

I will have to go and check, the body is not here now but the job and body numbers were all that I could see at first look
thanks hk

Ray, I am in agreement with you on the judging aspect and not having the correct tag to match the correct color.
So, everyone needs to decide for themselves whether judging is more important or enjoying making a color choice is more important. I don't like the fact that a tag does not match the color. Feel that should be a point deduction in my book.

I checked the cowl tag again and there is only 2 line items on the tag, Job# and body#, no paint or trim areas. The door sills are long gone, so I suppose we will paint the color combo that is our favorite.