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Take two aspirins and go to bed. You'll feel better in the morning. And, in the morning you'll have a renewed prospective of what is precious and what is just a hot flash of fantasy. I'm speaking for all us old guys that appreciate originality more than personal artmanship, as nice as the latter may be. Why do I feel like I'm a-wastin' my breath? Charlie 
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meh....
I was against the plot to have your photos limited... keep that up, and I'm switching sides! On a side note, there was a '34 cabriolet at Flint that was street rodded. It was a nice looking car and was done tastefully... but... put any of the other six '34 converts that were there beside it, and it just faded into the background... Just my opinion, certainly not slagging the guy's car, but just my opinion of the style.
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I wasn't saying I wouldn't want that car parked in my driveway... I think it's just the style of street rodding in general. And It's totally a personal opinion, I know these guys work just as hard on their cars. I think that if I were to go to one of those big Street Rod Nationals meets that get 10000 cars attending, I would have seen all I need to see after the first 100 or so. I really like the older ones, and the ones that were built using pre 1960 parts, but the newer ones all look the same to me. I could walk through the entire field at Flint and be interested in looking over every single car, and not feel that way about a street rod show. What I would really like to see is some of this owners other cars...
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He did watch his detailing. I'll give'em that! She's a beauty but... Im still the 'ol original" guy.
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Yep, I know what you are saying and I can appreciate that. I am an "original" dude as well, however, I do like to look at most cars, which includes stock and street rods. When I go to a street rod show I look at each and every car there.....even if there are 600 of them. Same is true at a car show with restored cars such as Fords, Chevrolets, Dodges and etc., I look at every car there. At a street rod show there are always cars that I like and cars that I don't like. Same is true for restored cars that are stock......there are those that I like and those I don't like. All of my cars are stock but that doesn't stop me from appreciating quality street rods that are done with taste....especially the "restro-rods" of the early to mid-1930's. I have never had the desire to own a street rod until I saw detailed photos several years ago of "Ruby Rose", the 1934 cabriolet that was at Flint. That car knocked my socks off immediately and I would love to have that car. I realize that would never happen but if I ever did own a "restro-rod" that would be the one. And, I think that if "Ruby Rose" was lined up with the other six '34 cabriolets that were at Flint, she would shine just as much as the other six original cars....in my eyes anyway. I think that it would be great to look at the six original '34 cabriolets, and then a '34 cabriolet that is not "traditional"..... but one that is a top-notch build with lots of care, quality and detail. The other restored 1933 and 1934 convertibles in the same stable with "Ruby Rose" are definitely worth viewing since each one is a real treasure. 
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TO ALL, It wasn't my intent, in my original post on this thread. to start a discussion about original vs street rods, et al. While I appreciate the recent excellent opinions/comments on this topic, it has had a lot of mileage and is about worn out. And, can, I suppose, become tiresome to some who open "Don't ban me...but." Accordingly, I regret my initial comment(s) that may have been the catalyst for the instant divergence from Steve's original post. Charlie
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Charlie, you are correct......your original comments were definitely the catalyst for this discussion. However, there was no real diversion from the thread since Steve's initial post concerned a 1938 Chevrolet Coupe street rod, which establised the thread, and your reply opened the door for the original vs. street rod discussion. You should have no regrets though since I feel that this was a great discussion even though this topic has been talked about previously. 
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I don't feel we strayed too far either Charlie... Steve's initial post showed his stock(?) '38, and he compared it to a lowered "resto-rod" In my humble opinion, he's better to spend the dough on that '37-'38 convertible he's always wanted as a garage mate to his pretty little coupe... even a factory '41 would show a little more class! I think part of the problem with street rodding is that there are too many "cookie cutter" cars out there for a hobby that is supposed to be about personalization of your car. Throwing mail ordered chrome valve covers and air cleaner on a small block Chevy is not my idea of a "customized" motor...it's been done a million times! I think the real innovation in the hot rod industry is coming from the "Rat rod " crowd. I don't like a lot of their finished products, because I find the "beater look" they try to fake as just phoney, but I like the way they are using obscure parts, aircraft and tractor parts, and details that make you think "Wow, I've never seen that before!" I hope the style evolves into a little more fit and finish. They really have taken what was happening in the forties, and progressed it from there, without small block Chevies, mustang II IFS, and chrome mag wheels! My first choice would still be my stock '50's Chevy... or maybe one of them '34 ragtops!
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Hi Guys:
This is Dave, from Connecticut. I'm the guy who owns the 34 Cabriolet street rod. Here's my 2 cents - Like Skipper, I love all kinds of cars, as long as they are tastefully done, and carry the same theme throughout.
That's what I hoped to achieve when I built the 34. If General Motors had the technology and materials of today back in 1934, how would the cars have looked? Ruby Rose is my answer to that question. She's all stock on the outside, except for paint, wheels, and stance. All of the exterior accessories are correct for 1934 (except '33 sidemount covers - I wanted the hubcaps to match the ones on the chrome wire wheels). It's got a 350 fuel injected motor, overdrive automatic trans, air conditioning, cruise control, disk brakes, high end stereo, power windows. The cars cruises comfortably and safely at 80 mph. I drove it to Flint and back, a total of about 1600 miles, with no problems. I built it to drive, and have put over 14,000 miles on it in the 4 years since it's been finished. Let me tell you, it is a blast to drive this car on the highway with the top down!!!! I could get in it and drive forever! Maybe even all the way to Medford, OR!
It's also reliable - It has never left me on the side of the road. It's exactly what I hoped it would be when I started building it. And I started with junk, not a good original.
I do understand why some people hate street rods, because there are alot of really bad ones out there. I'm talking about the ones that are ugly, have no artistic value, show poor workmanship, and don't have the same theme throughout.
To sum it up, no matter what kind of car it is, I can appreciate any car that is well done.
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I agree. Photos? 
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Hey Dave... I hope you don't think I was slagging on your car. It really is a beautiful machine. It was just the street rod vs. stock comparison, and my personal opinions on the matter... Certainly post some photos up! And while you're at it, let's see what else is in your garage. If you did half as good of a job on them, they will be beautiful cars!
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[Re:Fuzzy] I think that was very well worded. I only concour that the "Rod's" that give "Rod's" a bad name are the ones poorly done.
I also think along the lines, at times, of, what if they had the technology of today for cars. And i think you really stayed true to that relm. Those are the hotrods i enjoy if it has to stray from originality. Also building from a junker which is a better way to go about a rod than chopping up on a perfectly good original.
I am no judge, my opinion doesnt mean beans from applesauce, but i think you did superior work. Thats the work i apreciate.
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Hi Brewster - no I didn't think you were slagging my car; I knew you were just expressing your opinion. Sounds like even tho you "prefer" originals, you can appreciate certain other styles of cars. That's a good thing. I'll post some pics, but first I gotta figure out how to do it......
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email me,I'll post them for you.
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Here are some pics - don't know if this will work.....
[image]http://www.flickr.com/photos/65878446@N02/?saved=1[image/]
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Let's try this again: Pics of the 34 cabriolet, 33 cabriolet, 33 roadster, 32 roadster -
[img]http://www.flickr.com/photos/65878446@N02/?saved=1[/img]
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fuzzy_33 - Seeing the before body on the '34, I think the direction you took was warranted, at least in my view.
If you were to offer me either the '33, or the '34, I would take the '33, which you likely have invested half that of the '34.
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It's driving me insane that I can't get that link to work!!
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All you need to do with the original link is to re-insert the @ sign in the proper place and it works just fine.
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While there are a lot of parts that arent original I like what has been done, the photos probably dont show the workmanship involved fully. I would not be ashamed if it was parked in my garage. Tony
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