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Are wing wings correct for a 29 Sport coupe? (ie The glass deals) They were on my car but I never saw them elsewhere.
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Some wind wing pieces came in a box of parts when I bought my 1929 Imperial Landau, they have the bow tie stamped on. The parts do not all match so they must be from two or more sets of wind wings.
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Yep, I have a complete set of 1929-30 wind wings and they have the bow-tie stamped on as well. However, the wind wings are aftermarket since they were not offered by Chevrolet as an accessory. Apparently, several years later aftermarket companies stopped putting the Chevrolet trademark on their accessories because of trademark infringements. 
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If they have the bow-tie they might be from a roadster. the after market wings I put on my 1930 coupe pressure fit in the window frame. They look good but they tend to rattle a bit at highway speeds.
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If they have the bow-tie they might be from a roadster. Actually, the bow-tie has no bearing on if the wind-wings are from a roadster. The type of brackets used determine which model the wind-wings were used on. For example, I have a pair of aftermarket wind-wings with the bow-tie and they fit on my 1930 Sport Coupe. 
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I guess this gets confusing for us newbies because I would think that if the car is sold new from the dealer with wind wings then they would be 'original'. I can envisage a situation where the dealer sells the accessory and the new car buyer may not know whether the extras they ordered are original 'chevrolet' equipment or not.
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While the rest of the crew may be in the same predicament, it's almost always the pilot's job to arrive at the crash site first.
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Only genuine Chevrolet accessories for the year in question are recognized as being correct. Aftermarket accessories installed by either the dealer or the car owner are incorrect and for judging purposes points will be deducted because the accessory or accessories are aftermarket. For 1929, Chevrolet did not offer genuine accessory windwings, so any aftermarket windwings installed on a 1929 Chevrolet are considered incorrect. 
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Ahhh.... so it's a 'judging' thing! That makes sense now. Thanks for that. For those of us that just like owning period cars, we need not worry that we'll be 'caught out' by the rivet counters.  Thanks for the extra info.
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While the rest of the crew may be in the same predicament, it's almost always the pilot's job to arrive at the crash site first.
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To participate in VCCA judging, I'd have to give up the non genuine high beam indicator, clock mirror and catalin gear shift knob in my '31 Special Sedan. And what if the judges discovered the extra fuses in the headlights wiring? I prefer my accessories instead of the judging.
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It has been my experience that it all depends on how the Chief Judge interprets the Judging Manual. One time it will be as delivered to the dealer and the next time it might be as delivered to the buying public. I feel it is best to do the vehicle the way you like it. It is your vehicle.
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One time it will be as delivered to the dealer and the next time it might be as delivered to the buying public Actually, I believe that in both instances only authorized genuine Chevrolet accessories are allowed. If aftermarket accessories are on the vehicle being judged then points will still be deducted. 
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I am not aware of a change in the "as delivered by Chevy dealer with factory approved accessories" judging standard during the 40+ years I have been a member. Maybe a few judges have been confused or interpreted or applied their own personal standard.
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Uh oh... I know that for me, I was only commenting on items I'd like to see fitted to a car I'd drive to a club event. I wasn't making any observation about how it should be judged by others. Least of all how judges should interpret the scoring criteria.
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While the rest of the crew may be in the same predicament, it's almost always the pilot's job to arrive at the crash site first.
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Chipper, The Chief Judges interpretation is what I was refering to. I don't believe the Judging Manual has changed.
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Hi just wonderin... I know my almost finished 31 std coupe is not a factory color. If my car were to be judged, how much does that mean in points? by the way, the light green with black trim looks really nice . 31 style. do judge really count rivits? Stanman
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then its probably silly to put your car in a show to be judged ,if the color isn't even right. any comment....
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If you are after first in class or any kind of a high scoring vehicle then you probably won't want to get the car judged with an incorrect paint combination. However, on the other hand, if you are interested in learning about what other items on the car are incorrect then you might want to have the car judged one time. It might be a good learning experience. 
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Quoted from the 2008 judging manual:
There will be a mandatory 100-point deduction for any vehicle that has been determined to have the incorrect color of paint for that year of manufacture.
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