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Hi all, As a classic car enthousiast, we (my father and I) have seen a lot of cars (and ofcourse Chevrolets) over the last ten years or so during rallies, concours' and other events here in Europe. All the photos are sorted by make, model year and production period. I try to make these descriptions as precise as possible, but that can be very hard. Especially because I am visually impaired (a rare form of autosomal dominant optic atrophy inherited from my mother) and as a result detail differences are hard to spot for me. Therefore all photos are taken by my father and the archive is owned by me. I like to learn about cars and their history. I am also a perfectionist which can be very frustrating in relation to a visual impairment. And that's why I would like to ask for some help now and then. I have made scans of the 1933-1936 cars in my archives. I would be pleased if someone could tell me if my description with respect to body style, type and model year is correct. Otherwise, just enjoy the pictures! 1: Was this ornament a factory accessory exclusive to the 1933 Master Eagle (CA)? 2: This should be a 1933 Master Eagle (CA) sedan, correct? 3: I have this one as a 1933 Master Eagle (CA) coupe, correct? 4: On what model(s) was this ornament an accessory and in which model year(s)? Same ornament on another car I think... 5: A Master (DA) sedan from 1934, correct?(cannot be the Sport Sedan because this one has not the integrated trunk..) 6: a coupe, is this the Standard (DC) or the Master (DA)? Is it possible to tell which of the coupes this is?![[Linked Image from members.chello.nl]](http://members.chello.nl/p.huizen1/chevrolet/chev_1934_coupe.jpg) Thanks in advance! Any help is really apreciated! Best wishes, Job
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The eagle cap is correct for all 1933 Eagles and Masters. #2 appears to be a Master and not an Eagle. #3 is an Eagle coupe. The hood ornament is not correct for that car. It appears to be a 1934 ornament. A 1933 car is either an Eagle or a Master, but not both. The 1933 Standard is a totally different line of cars.
RAY Chevradioman http://www.vccacolumbiariverregion.org/1925 Superior K Roadster 1928 Convertible, Sport, Cabriolet 1933 Eagle, Coupe 1941 Master Deluxe 5-Passenger Coupe 1950 Styleline Deluxe 4-Door Sedan 1950 Styleline Deluxe Convertible 2002 Pontiac, Montana, Passenger Van 2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ 2017 Silverado, Double Cab, Z71, 4X4, White, Standard Bed, LTZ If you need a shoulder to cry on, pull off to the side of the road. Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
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The two hood ornaments that are the same were correct for 34 Standards and Masters. Picture #6 is a 34 Master because it is a 5 Window Coupe with Chrome Headlights and SS Running Board Mouldings.
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Many thanks both! I like that 5w coupe style! Is it a two-seater? Was it offered for many model years? Here is the rest of my photos from this period. I like these years with their streamlined design and their vertical bar grilles. 7: This must be a 1935 Standard coach, correct?This one has the ornament fitted from my previous post which would be a 1934 ornament, or is this car from 1934... Or does it have the wrong ornament. 8: A Master (deluxe?) coupe from 1936, correct?![[Linked Image from members.chello.nl]](http://members.chello.nl/p.huizen1/chevrolet/chev_1936_coupe.jpg) Surprisingly, I just have closed body styles from this period in my archives. Hope we will find a few open bodies in the near future! All the best and thanks again! Job
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Surprisingly, I just have closed body styles from this period in my archives. Hope we will find a few open bodies in the near future! Rethinking this statement of myself, it was a bit stupid because I did not realize the popularity of open body styles had dropped and the production numbers are quite low actually! So not really surprising we did not find one yet! :(
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Isn't picture #3 a Master coupe? I thought the Master vent window was stationary(fixed) when the window was rolled down and the Eagle vent assy rolled down with the whole window assy.Or am I wrong?
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Your reasoning is correct. Now we just have to agree on what we see in the picture. Do you see a fixed divider?
RAY Chevradioman http://www.vccacolumbiariverregion.org/1925 Superior K Roadster 1928 Convertible, Sport, Cabriolet 1933 Eagle, Coupe 1941 Master Deluxe 5-Passenger Coupe 1950 Styleline Deluxe 4-Door Sedan 1950 Styleline Deluxe Convertible 2002 Pontiac, Montana, Passenger Van 2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ 2017 Silverado, Double Cab, Z71, 4X4, White, Standard Bed, LTZ If you need a shoulder to cry on, pull off to the side of the road. Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
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It is extremely hard to tell from that picture. It kind of looks like there is a divider low on the window by the man's wrist.
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It is extremely hard to tell from that picture. It kind of looks like there is a divider low on the window by the man's wrist. Does this help? I don't know exactly what you need to see. ![[Linked Image from members.chello.nl]](http://members.chello.nl/p.huizen1/chevrolet/chev_1933_coupe_glass.jpg) Cannot get this picture larger, because it is a scanned analog one (in fact it was taken in 2000 during one of the first events we visited.
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The window is definately rolled down and the vertical chrome divider behind the vent window is there so I would call that a master. I am not an expert on the eagle models as I have a master but that looks like how mine works. I believe that Ray has an eagle. I see that the door handle is missing.
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I think we are right that it is a MASTER.
RAY Chevradioman http://www.vccacolumbiariverregion.org/1925 Superior K Roadster 1928 Convertible, Sport, Cabriolet 1933 Eagle, Coupe 1941 Master Deluxe 5-Passenger Coupe 1950 Styleline Deluxe 4-Door Sedan 1950 Styleline Deluxe Convertible 2002 Pontiac, Montana, Passenger Van 2014 Impala, 4-Door Sedan, White Diamond, LTZ 2017 Silverado, Double Cab, Z71, 4X4, White, Standard Bed, LTZ If you need a shoulder to cry on, pull off to the side of the road. Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
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Thanks! So in summary:
Photo # 1: Hood ornament as fitted on the Master and Eagle in 1933 exclusively. 2: 1933 Master (CA) Sedan. 3: 1933 Master (CA) Coupe. 4: Hood ornament as fitted on the 1934 Master (DA) and Standard (DC). 5: 1934 Master (DA) sedan. 6: 1934 Master (DA) Coupe (5-window) 7: 1935 Standard (EC) Coach. 8: 1936 Master ... (FD/FA) Coupe.
Just three additional questions: 1: is the car in photo 6 a business coupe? 2: Were all 1936 Masters called Deluxe? 3: Was the ornament as shown in photos 4 identical to the ornament in 1935? The car in photo 7 has the samen ornament...
Many thanks!
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2: Were all 1936 Masters called Deluxe? I think the answer to question 2 is a yes. I cannot find a source where they claim the opposite. The car is called Master Deluxe. Hope my sources are reliable though  . Just two additional questions:1: is the car in photo 6 a business coupe? 2: Was the ornament as shown in photos 4 identical to the ornament in 1935? The car in photo 7 has the samen ornament... Many thanks!
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1934 in photo #6 is a business coupe. The rumble seat coupe was a 3 window coupe. The single word Master was used in 1933 and 1934. The 1935 and 1936 "top models" were Master Deluxe and the lower models were Standards. In 1937 the cheap model was a Master and the top was a Master Deluxe. Same for 1938. In 1939 the numbers "85" were added to the Master. Both #3 and #7 have the accessory 1934 ornaments, The 1935 Standard ornamental cap had the same ornamental cap as the 1935 Master except the Master Deluxe was fixed.....both were accessories. The 1936 Standard coupe pictured has an accessory ornament which was also used on a Master Deluxe. The 1935 Standard 2 door could also be a 1934 Standard. The 1934 had every other verticle grille bar painted black, in the picture they all appear chrome. If it is a 1934 the black paint may have been removed which is common. If it is a 1934 it is a late 1934 as it has the longer rear body and rear side window.
If you send me your email address I will send you some factory ornament pictures.
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Hi, Here is one new photo taken this year of what is probably a 1933 Chevrolet. Is this a Master or Eagle, body style Sedan? ![[Linked Image from members.chello.nl]](http://members.chello.nl/p.huizen1/chevrolet/es2-156.jpg) Thanks!
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That's a 1933 Master...Not an Eagle...Joe
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Great, thanks Joe, for your quick response!
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