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#18923 10/03/06 10:41 AM
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1. Was there a possability that the 29 Sport coupes were solid colors?
2. How did the front seat mount to the floor, bolted throught thw wood to the metal frame, or with the use of lag screws?
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1. The answer is yes. I don't know of any literature that specifies a single body color other than Black (CC No. 20 or CC No. 21) or Aiken Green (CC No. 18).

2. Metal seat supports are bolted through the floor wood using bolts and washers.


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There was a threaded metal plate that was attached to the underside of the wood main sill that the bolts and washers Chipper Dipper mentioned were secured to.

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FYI, the plates are nailed in place so they do not move while the seat is being bolted in place. I don't have one handy but they are a couple of inches long and ~3/4" wide and ~1/4" thick if my memory is good. I likely have one around here somewhere. Since the Doggie has a '30 coupe he can measure his while taking a nap under the car. At least our dog naps under the cars, trucks, trailers. Is cooler and out of the sun and the breeze can still flow past.


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Thanks for all the help!!!! So would it be correct to paint a 29 sport coupe solid black? All I have ever seen is two tone cars.

Other item: I guess I would need to drill holes in the floor and somehow secure the bolts underneith for my seat brackets???? I see no original holes in the wood or metal frame. Thanks Tu papa


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Nope, no black is listed for the Sport Coupe. The 1929 Sport Coupes were painted Driftwood Smoke (#13), or Russian Brown (#19), or English Gray (#23). The standard coupe was painted black however.

As mentioned above, your seats were bolted to metal plates that were secured on the bottom side of the wood. The wood was cutout underneath for the metal plates. The metal plates were drilled and tapped for the seat bolts.

By the way, to set the record straight the Mangy Mutt doesn't take a nap under his '30 coupe......he takes his nap by the beer tapper instead!!

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I am confused..What are there plates that are nailed on? I figured that bolts ran through the floor and bolted to the bottom? Thanks. Tu Papa


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Again, there are metal plates that are secured to the underneath side of the wood. The wood is cutout for these metal plates. The plates are drilled and tapped for the seat bracket bolts. The bolts go down from the top, through the seat bracket and the wood, and then they screw into the metal plates that are secured to the bottom of the wood.

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I think I have it. I don't have the metal plates but I can invent something.
Would Navy blue and black work for a sport coupe?


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Regarding the Sport Coupe paint color, read my posting from October 03, 2006 17:23 above.

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Why not use "T NUTS" ? These are used in funiture manufacturing where a bolt is required to fasten a member to a wooden surface such as in your condition.Require no recessing, just the proper hole size for your bolts. Any ACE hardware or HOME DEPOT should carry them

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"T" nuts do not offer enough support for the complete front seat assembly (plus the weight of the driver and passenger) especially since the seat moves back and forth. "T" nuts are used in various areas on the 1929 Chevrolet Sport Coupe, but the metal plates are a must for adequate support for the front seat assembly.

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The weight of the seat and the driver and passenger is supported by the floor . Not by the "T" nuts

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tinnocker - That is true only when the car and or driver is motionless.

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Imfalco- How does the car's motion or driver's motion effect the weight ? Motion would effect thrust only .

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What I meant was the weight of the driver and passenger would not be a factor until the car is put into motion, cornering or stopping, which are all putting stress on the seat mounts, especially during acceleration and sudden stops. Just like you wouldn't want to anchor your seat belts with them.

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Hi, Thanks for all the discussiojn on the seat brackets. As to colors would it have been possible to factary order paint combimations or solid colors of a customer's choice in 1929? I am not too crazy about any of the color choices mentioned above. As long as the car would be correct, I am happy....Thanks Tu Papa


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Hi, Thanks for all the discussiojn on the seat brackets. As to colors would it have been possible to factary order paint combimations or solid colors of a customer's choice in 1929? I am not too crazy about any of the color choices mentioned above. As long as the car would be correct, I am happy....Thanks Tu Papa


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Actually, in 1929 the cars came from the factory with specific colors and if the customer wanted to change the color of the car the dealer would do so at extra cost.

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Thanks for the help one and all. This is what makes a great club...So it is possible that a person could have ordered a car with other color options and the dealer painted them?????


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In most cases you could not order a special color from the factory. However, since a 1929 Sport Coupe came in certian colors only, when you purchased said car from the dealer, at extra cost he would repaint the car the color you wanted.

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Even if the dealer repainted the car a color requested by a buyer it would not be considered "original". So far the VCCA does not require the paint to be "original" or only a color used by the factory on the particular body style. It may in the future however! and then there could be point deductions in VCCA Judging.


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Thanks for all the help one and all. I have the seat mounted and have no decision on the color. PS what is "driftwood smoke?"


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Dave,
Driftwood Smoke is a grey. I can e-mail you some modern matches for you to look at if you wish.

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