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My 36 Master had been changed over to a manual starter when I bought it, and I'm now trying change it back to the original starterator setup. I've collected most of the parts (see pic below), including a NOS vacuum control. But I think I'm missing the rod between the vacuum control and the adjusting link. A few questions:
1) Are there any other parts that I'm missing?
2) If I just need the rod, is this simply a metal rod that I can fashion myself?
3) Is the accelerator rod the same for both setups?
4) Is the starter link (to the starter switch) the same in both setups?
Starterator Parts Link

Hi Randy,

Looks like your missing the rod and something else to me. I'll see if I can find a complete on today or take a picture of the one on my 34.

Also take a picture of the peddle rod that you have, it is very special.

Also the part going to the starter is special. I'll see about a picture of that as well.

My Feb. 1940 edition of the Master Parts Book has a drawing of the starterator and all the pieces on page 34. Let me know if you have it. If not, I'll see if I can take a photo or scan of it and send it to you.
You can probably fabricate the rod but the length isn't stated in the parts book. You'll also need a special washer/bracket that bolts to the bell housing and support the rod. I have a photo of that piece and I'll send it as well.
From the picture you posted, the piece on the extreme left engages the accelerator rod in a notch. Check your acc. rod to see if you have this notch. If yes, then you probably have the correct accelerator rod.
I suspect the link from the starterator rod to the starter solenoid is the same as the manual linkage. Again, from your photo, the piece on the extreme right is pinned to the linkage to the starter. Check to see it fits.
More later.

I assume this is the drawing that you have. This is on page 78 of the 1942 Master Parts Book.
Starterator diagram

So it looks like I need 2.036 rod (PN 371217). Also, I don't have the correct accelerator rod, so I'll need to locate that also. There are two part numbers listed for 3.431. One is 372701 (end, accelerator pedal rod adj. 1933-37), and the other is 476533 (no description). Pictures of these would be much appreciated.

I think I can just get parts at a hardware store for the elbow and pipe that connects to the vacuum control. But where does the pipe connect? There is a pipe coming out of the intake manifold, but I thought that was for the wiper.

The linkage to the starter seems to fit ok, so I think that will work.

The vacuum connection on the intake manifold goes to the wiper. Attached to that vacuum line is a small line that goes across the engine and connects to the vacuum unit that retracts the pin when the engine is started. When the engine is not running the pin is extended and makes the accelerator a starter pedal. When the engine is started and produces vacuum the pin is retracted and the accelerator pedal becomes the gas feed.

So there's simply a tee in the line going to the wiper?

NO, there is just a place where a small line is soldered in the big line so as to form a "T". A bit of semantics here.

Randy,
Yes, the diagram is the same. Should help you identify the parts you need.
I sent you an email with some photos and descriptions of the starterator pieces and the vacuum line. I've seen several arrangements of how the manifold vacuum was tapped into...mine has a threaded 'T' with a rubber hose to the wiper motor and a copper line to the starterator.
Hope they help.

Just an update on the starterator. Got all the other parts I needed from Bruce B., and put it all together today. Adjusted everything per manual, and it fired right up! Thanks for all the help.