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I have a couple of questions on lubrication of the transmission when the transmission is drained dose the oil drain from the universal/drive shaft housing at that time and where is the fill plug and what is the amount of oil used. Do I use 600W oil. Is there a chart that gives lube/grease types and amounts available.

No...some of the oil remains in the Universal Joint Ball Retainer. You only want about 1/2 of a pint in that location anyway. The fill hole for the Universal Joint Ball Retainer is the 1/8" pipe plug that is on top of the ball retainer. Most often the plug has been removed and an Alemite or Zerk fitting has been installed in its place instead.

I thought I read someplace not to use grease in the ball joint area [I think the filling station article]can you get oil through a Alemite or Zerk fitting I have not tried it. Any how I thought I also read in the operation/care book that the transmission supplied the oil to the u-joint area. Is there a chart that gives the lube amounts and types

600 W oil is used in the Universal Joint Ball Retainer, not grease. The transmission does supply oil to that area via the open bearing in the back of the transmission case. However, on an initial fill, 1/2 pint should be added to the Universal Joint Ball Retainer, after that the transmission will supply the oil to that area. If the propeller shaft bushing seal is bad, then the transmission oil will run down the torque tube and overfill the rear end.

Some dudes use a double-sealed bearing in the back of the transmission to prevent the above from happening. In that case, 1/2 pint should be maintained in the Universal Joint Ball Retainer.

Yes, oil will go through a grease fitting, however the correct application is a 1/8" pipe plug.

Thanks form information that clears some things up.

The zerk type fitting is a grease fitting and designed for grease.

The pin type Alemite fittings are actually "oil fittings" despite the fact that they are called "grease fittings" and the gun that fits them a "grease gun" in Chevrolet literature. Alemite literature clearly states "Use a Fluid Lubricant in the JUNIOR COMPRESSOR Model C-1033" then below "DO NOT USE GREASE". If you read the owners manual for your Chevrolet carefully it will tell you what lubricant to be used in each location. "Heavy oil" is 600W or SAE 160 oil not grease.

DO NOT USE GREASE in the transmission, rear end, universal ball joint area or steering box. You will not get proper lubrication and will get premature wear!

I'm confused. What is the JUNIOR COMPRESSOR Model C-130? I have looked at owners manual and see where it shows heavy oil like the spring shackle bolts should I use heavy oil on them or grease? It looks like the only place to use grease is where there are grease cups.

A Junior Compressor C-130 is what I would discribe as an "old timey Alemite Grease gun" I am sure the repair manual means the one that came with your car originally. I have several in my collection. They will pump 600 wt. heavy oil. I don't know if this is the exact one but it will be along this order:

Those pictured are other models. The Junior Compressor Model C-130 is the one pictured in the late 20s and early 30s owner's and repair manuals.

I was just looking in the repair manual for the AC-LQ on Pg215 is that the tyre? I'm also a little concerned that the picture of the Alemite fittings look different then what on the car somebody my have changed them would it be OK to use the grease fitting on the spring bolts and steering parts I don't mean the steering box

The Alemite fitting will accept both grease and oil, so there is no need to change the fittings in the areas where you want to use grease instead of oil.

Dose the Alemite fitting have two pins sticking out that when you attach the Alemite gun you have to twist on or due you just push it on and hold press on the gun during greasing.

Yes, the Alemite fitting has two pins and the grease gun is pushed on and then twisted, thus engaging the Alemite fitting.

Can Alemite fitting still be purchased and from whom. I see I'm learning more every day I hope I can retain it.

Yes, go here: http://www.alemite.com/catalog/details.aspx?identifier=fittings_pintype

Restoration Supply Company has them.

restorationstuff.com

When Chevy installed Alemite fittings on 1929-1932 vehicles, did Chevy provide covers?

No, covers were an aftermarket item.

I checked the grease fittings on the car is afternoon and they [how ever they is] changed all the Alemite fitting to Zerk except the one on the steering column,the one on top of the U-Joint housing is broken it looks like a 90Deg so I have to change it.

It was not uncommon to change the Alemite fittings to Zerk years later for ease of lubrication with the newer type of grease guns and etc. An Alemite adaptor was needed for the newer grease guns so that they would work on the old pin type Alemite fittings.

OK now I would like a remediation on lubricating the car if I use 600w oil in steering box,transmission,U-joint and rear end and use grease on the other Zerk fitting and grease cup's and proper oil for engine I should be OK. Or do I use heavy oil on the Zerk fitting and grease only in the cup's. I still have to replace the broken fitting on top of the U-Joint and I think I should use an Alemite fitting it would be easier to get oil in the unit then pulling up the floor boards

It is best to use the "Lubrication Chart" in the "Instructions for the Operation and Car of Chevrolet Motor Cars" [commonly called the owner's manual]. That diagram with the description in "General Lubrication" will spell out what lubricant is used at each location.

As a quick summary: Originally all of the "grease" fittings were the alemite pin type. They all used "heavy oil" (600W). Grease cups used chassis type grease except for water pump which used water pump grease. Engine used 30W in summer and 20W in winter in most of the country but either lower or higher viscosity in colder or hotter places. Light oil (generally considered 10 to 20W but most just use motor oil) used in oil cups (generator, starter) door hinges etc.

Thanks to everybody for the help. What I have to do is get some heavy oil 600W and do some work with it I guess once I have some, I will under stand better what you guys are talking about.

You can get the 600W oil from the Filling Station.