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I had the electric clock in my '37 repaired recently by a respected repair shop. The repair lasted about 5 months and now it is not working again. I have read some of the posts on this subject and apparently this clock was never very reliable. Although the repair shop will repair it again under their warranty I am wondering if I can do the repair, have it last 5 months or so and then repair it again rather than having to send it away. Is any one familiar with these clocks and can give me some advice on what the usual problems are with these clocks and how to go about the repairs?
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In an effort to make mine last longer I connected my clock using a hidden switch so it isn't running all the time. When I go to a show I turn it on & set the time. I then turn it off when I get home.
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Good idea. Also helps keep the battery up.
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When I bought my '55 Bel Air back in '76 the clock didn't work. The next year I bought a NOS clock at the Reno Swap Meet. I nursed it along until recently by disconnecting the ground cable when the car wasn't in use. All winter, at night on tours, etc. Now when the clock tries to rewind, it buzzes so I disconnected the wire to the clock. The quartz suggestion above, I think is the way to go especially if the car is used frequently...
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Something the judges don't check?
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It depends on the judges. Some will pay attention and others not. If they do a point deduction is likely.
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I had a friend that set his clock at 10:15. Judging usually started at 10:00. The judges didn't know if the clock was running or not.
I have a quartz movement in one of our vehicles. I believe that is the answer. My battery is in the ash tray. I don't smoke or allow anyone to smoke in my vehicles.
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Few of the eletric clocks ran for 5 months when they were new.
I have never had a car judged that had the clock working and have never lost points because of it. Perhaps I have always had judges that can't tell time.
The only car I have with a working clock is the wind-up clock in the 1950.
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The clock in my '37 stopped many years ago. Before it broke, it always ran a tad fast or a bit slow, but I could never get it adjusted so it ran exactly correct. Since it's been broken, it keeps PERFECT time - twice a day.  Happy New Year, everyone.
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Hey guys,
There seems to be some confusion with judging the clock,
The working condition of the clock is to be only done during the field entrance check, and the movement is not an issue.
On the field the clock is then judged by the interior judge for condition, authenticity and so on, but not the working condition. It is to be treated no different than a headlight.
Some owners like myself disconect the battery once the car is on the field. Some owners elect not to.
I hope this sheds some light on this, and while we are talking about clocks, did you ever notice everytime you see an ad for a watch it always shows 10 after 10? Anyone know why?
Happy new year
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That was the time that Lincoln was assassinated.  
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I never heard that one,
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Clocks are pictured at "10 after 10" because the hands are evenly spaced. the face is visable and has a smile. 
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Gene's account of the clock face is the same one that I have heard as well. As a side note, many historical accounts put Lincoln's assassination at 10:15 PM.  
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In the late 50's or early 60's timex used 10 and 2 position to frame their name on watch comercials.
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I'd say they do what ever they want. Looks like they do follow the "smile" and "frame the logo" concept in most cases but 10:10 is not the hands down favorite. Maybe Lincoln was killed at 10:07....... ![[Linked Image from bigbth.home.comcast.net]](http://bigbth.home.comcast.net/watch.jpg) Brian
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I believe that I remeber reading that Lincoln had a digital watch.
Actually the hands are evenly positioned at about 10:07 or .08.
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Take a closer look at the clock hands in advertisements in future, if you have not noticed this little trivia before!
1. Aesthetics
It is the so-called accepted “creative standard” in the industry. For instance, TIMEX has verified that they position the hands in that manner to allow the company logo on the face of the timepiece to be framed and not be blocked by the watch hands. TIMEX says the industry standard used to be 8:20 but that looked too much like a frown and created an unhappy look. On the contrary, 10:10 represents a smiling face.
2. Respectful Memory
It seems that 10:10 was the time of Abraham Lincoln’s shooting, which subsequently caused his death, and therefore it was a sort of respectful remembrance of that tragic moment in history. However, this theory is less accepted than the previous one on Aesthetics.
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I do not know the true answer, but I have heard all kinds of reasons from something to do with the end of WW1, D-Day, The A-Bomb, and yes aesthetics. I never realized it until someone pointed it out to me that almost every watch is positioned that way in ad's
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Have your electric clock converted to a quartz movement and then you won't ever have to mess with it again. Can you suggest a reliable source to convert 37 clock to quartz? The car is still 6 volts. Do they make 6 volt quartz conversions, or would it have an internal battery to power it?
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I ended up having a 6 volt quartz movement installed by Williamsons Instruments in Chester, Ark. www.williamsons.com. 479-369-2551. They were the company that originally repaired the old movement but it only lasted a short period of time so they credited the original repair cost to the cost of the quartz movement. Total cost to install a new quartz movement is $150. From the outside you cannot tell that anything has been changed.
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I'm on my second quartz movement in the clock in my 37 pickup glove box door. The first one I had "professionally" done. After I saw how it was done, when it went down, I had no problem doing my own. Runs on a small battery and even has a sweeping second hand. Joe 
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I'm on my second quartz movement in the clock in my 37 pickup glove box door. The first one I had "professionally" done. After I saw how it was done, when it went down, I had no problem doing my own. Runs on a small battery and even has a sweeping second hand. Joe Joe can you send me pictures, and instructions for how you did the conversion? I need to do both a pickup and car.
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